Mindset 4/1/2022

Mindset 4/1/2022

Steve & Tom walk through 'Growing Together' in life and as business partners.

 

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TCF Coaches: bill, how you doing man you just have to be the first one, I see up here.

 

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TCF Coaches: Let me get my chat box up.

 

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TCF Coaches: Right.

 

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TCF Coaches: Tom how you doing.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m just trying to.

 

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TCF Coaches: get my screen up and running.

 

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TCF Coaches: Go.

 

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TCF Coaches: get the right one to go.

 

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TCF Coaches: Mike looks ready today what’s up man, how you doing.

 

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TCF Coaches: There is a little green little thumbs up crystal Tony Benn bill Alex Nicholas.

 

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TCF Coaches: This is what I want perfect.

 

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TCF Coaches: Just kidding no training today.

 

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TCF Coaches: April 1.

 

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TCF Coaches: Tom how you doing.

 

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TCF Coaches: Today is gonna be fun.

 

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TCF Coaches: Because you barely don’t even know what i’m gonna do today, do you.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m along for the ride.

 

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TCF Coaches: I know that’s good So are we at one o’clock yet yeah we’re one to one, so let me, I just want to give everybody a little bath screw it will go through the slides that we have to go through first time.

 

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TCF Coaches: So I don’t get myself in trouble and then we’ll talk about what we’re going to talk about today how’s that.

 

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TCF Coaches: There you go.

 

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alright.

 

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TCF Coaches: So anyways today’s a April Fools I was going to plan something really nasty for alia on April fool’s day to day, but I decided not to so they got spare you all that stuff.

 

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TCF Coaches: So.

 

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TCF Coaches: here’s this KPI dashboard Tom I see.

 

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We don’t say.

 

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TCF Coaches: Oh that’s the problem, maybe I gotta share my screen hang on.

 

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TCF Coaches: got it.

 

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got it.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah it’s a new MIC on so My guess is a few people be jumping on Lake as a price still looking for the March link because they don’t realize there’s an April link.

 

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TCF Coaches: That happens every month that’s all right.

 

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TCF Coaches: You have my screen Tom.

 

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nope.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay, let me go round two.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right, in the meantime, how did your first quarter go share the box.

 

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TCF Coaches: You on target off target.

 

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TCF Coaches: what’s happening.

 

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TCF Coaches: There we go.

 

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TCF Coaches: Alright, so now you got the big screen and everything right.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right, I was sharing how you normally share files, not on the zoom but anyways so Tom I see all these KPI Fridays what what the hell, are they you know tell me give me a what are they, why should we even do them.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah so KPI Fridays guys are leading indicators they’re your leads your the job sold they’re not on this dashboard there there’s just a sheet that you can use, you can choose to use and post a picture.

 

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TCF Coaches: And what you learned every Friday, so that you’re focused on leading indicators this thing that you’re looking at here guys is lagging indicators, this is, after the fact.

 

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TCF Coaches: So generally this thing here if you click where it circled there go to KPI dashboard click enter your monthly numbers guys there’s three numbers.

 

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TCF Coaches: That you need to fill in looking back on the previous month okay so it’s super easy to do it once a month you take your p&l after everything’s reconciled at the end of the month.

 

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TCF Coaches: Which is usually a week or two into the next month, so today, you should not be filling this out because there’s no way on god’s green earth that all your shit is reconciled this morning.

 

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TCF Coaches: With your bookkeeper so so that’s what that is so guys, this is the one time, a month thing.

 

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TCF Coaches: takes literally five minutes turn off the damn KPI you look at three numbers on it your revenue your cost of goods and your overhead and you’re done.

 

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TCF Coaches: And everything everything else calculates you can compare how you’re doing against other trades other regions and things like that.

 

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TCF Coaches: The weekly one you guys is to keep you on track to hit your goals, a lot of us don’t reach our goals, so you had a million dollar sales goal for the first quarter and.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know you knew that in order to hit that you needed you needed to sell I don’t know 30 jobs.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay, in order to get 30 jobs, you would reverse engineer, how many leads, you need based on your closing rate that’s what the weekly thing is so when you’re tracking every week.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know if you’re on track or not with your leads and your job sold and what your predicted job average job sizes so guys there’s plenty of training in the membership site on this stuff just do it trust it.

 

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TCF Coaches: When you first start doing that weekly kpis and this thing it ain’t gonna mean shit to you it’s only going to mean something to you when you have some data over time to look back on So there you go.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m glad you put that to rest, so all right Tom again give us 30 seconds on what the hell is my high profit summit, and why should anybody even think of going.

 

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TCF Coaches: We all we.

 

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TCF Coaches: want to be in a room with a bunch of kick ass people learning some cool things to make your life your health your checkbook your business your team better.

 

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TCF Coaches: You need to be in the room, spouses, as always, or half price spouses and business partners so if you’re not signed up just get your ass to Denver.

 

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TCF Coaches: And I have proof of that all what carbs talking about the kpis ma high give me an example on a second i’ll i’ll take this one Tom.

 

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TCF Coaches: We started it six months at a pop six months prior to tax day, this is why it ends on April 15 this year we want you to go to this tracker you just simply put your name and you start saving money for you in your account.

 

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TCF Coaches: I think we have something like 30 people out of 200 actually doing this, I I assume the other hundred and 70 have either already saved.

 

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TCF Coaches: What they need for retirement or they’re tracking their retirement savings.

 

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TCF Coaches: somewhere else, and then it is it off shot that a few of you just actually may not even be want to bother be bothered with such a thing.

 

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TCF Coaches: But we’ve got a whole bunch of people off their ass and I want to just recognize, if you take a look at the screen right now, I just want to recognize.

 

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TCF Coaches: We started this six months ago, and these are I just posted the people that actually saved 1000 bucks and more over the last six months.

 

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TCF Coaches: And I want you to just take it, I want to just talk for a second about a couple of one of our coaches TIM he did this last year, and he put away 50 some thousand bucks.

 

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TCF Coaches: And he said Steve i’d never would have done this if it wasn’t for this tracker just for something to do that, the point is this.

 

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TCF Coaches: That TIM Joe rich and Bob all put in over $20,000 this shit i’m telling you there’s 20 grand you put in, or whatever you put in in 20 years $20,000 could be worth $2 million.

 

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TCF Coaches: It could be worth $200,000 just depends on how to invest it, but the point is.

 

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TCF Coaches: If you don’t get off your ass step one put your name in the tracker step to open up a separate account that you go put money in every year step three put $1 in $1.

 

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TCF Coaches: Step four let momentum take over Okay, so I wanna I told you, I would I would prove that two things so far Tom and I are talking about actually matter, I want to go back up to, I want to, I see a guy he was sitting in this truck Charlie Ross.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah I wonder if you’re gonna bring him up.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m going to pick on Charlie.

 

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TCF Coaches: areas, and I make sure I get up there, because I want to go over these three things so Charlie Ross internally i’m just going to say it, the way Steve says it and you know I love you right thumbs up Charlie because i’m about to fucking hand you your ass right here.

 

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TCF Coaches: I knew Charlie for 10 years.

 

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TCF Coaches: And he just did not have his act together in a business way he just didn’t have it didn’t have saving didn’t have checking didn’t have.

 

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TCF Coaches: Insurance didn’t have retiring didn’t have shit and we talked every single year.

 

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TCF Coaches: I met Charlie at a home show and it wasn’t even at the home show, but he showed up and i’m like Charlie what the hell, why are you here with your big booth and the Nice water features that you have it go Steve.

 

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TCF Coaches: I can’t even afford the $2,000 that they charge you to have a booth and i’m like and I looked at him and I like this, and this is the first time ever did this Charlie you’ll be maybe happy or sad.

 

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TCF Coaches: I just looked at you, Charlie I don’t know if you remember what I told him I said, Charlie that’s fucking ridiculous you’re like 50 year old grown ass man.

 

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It.

 

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TCF Coaches: is true you remember us walking around that show.

 

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Charlie: I do, I do, I was probably calling you a few names and the back of my mind to further than that.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m sure you were but i’m like you know God damn it I only got a few more years on this planet, I can either keep my mouth shut and leave and.

 

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TCF Coaches: Charlie and all the charlie’s of the world may or may not get it, or I could just say what I want to say kick them in the ass and start something fucking new for him and his wife.

 

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TCF Coaches: Now let me go to the next thing.

 

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TCF Coaches: Why would you show up at a personal then Charlie showed up at this personal event that stuff actually changed everything he heard.

 

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TCF Coaches: me go through my calculator retirement calculator and the money thing and came home and told matt about it and matt decided to do what Charlie a simple thing.

 

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Charlie: She she started putting I think you’re referring to Monday Monday and she started putting money back every single week.

 

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TCF Coaches: hundred bucks 5200 bucks that’s it well, you don’t want.

 

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TCF Coaches: That 5200 bucks all of a sudden, every time Charlie went out he started implementing the Shin foo and all the numbers things and then all the things that we had been talking about for 10 years.

 

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TCF Coaches: started to click for Charlie he started kicking ass and make it a shit ton of money and his business, so he started taking an extra 10 grand 20 grand 30 grand 40 grand and putting it in this account and after three three and a half years they went from zero to 400,000 bucks.

 

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TCF Coaches: Plus.

 

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TCF Coaches: period because he started to hang with people that wanted to go places he started to go to live events Okay, that one of the go.

 

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TCF Coaches: places, he also decided i’m going to go on that tracker and not only did he or net, I have to give them that, because I can promise you charlie’s never been on this tracker.

 

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TCF Coaches: That not only.

 

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TCF Coaches: She didn’t just start put her name and start adding up she started to give back to the Community, she started to pose every it’s Monday, what have you done for yourself we didn’t ask her to do it.

 

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TCF Coaches: She just did it and it was called Monday Monday and it’s a big deal and when she missed a Monday here and there, Tom what was the reaction of the group, every time she missed a Monday we gave.

 

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TCF Coaches: away where’s net.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah where’s the money, money.

 

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TCF Coaches: Is the post.

 

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TCF Coaches: Because he’s doing the first three slides that were talking about he went from zero to 400,000 bucks period.

 

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TCF Coaches: period.

 

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TCF Coaches: He just need you know, a Charlie needed a nudge well a kick in the ass was more like it, but that’s all he needed see Charlie had within him everything he’s ever needed to kill it in the business world, he has.

 

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TCF Coaches: he’s just choosing not to implement any of it yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: One day, he woke up the switch flip he started he started just implementing the shit he knew was inside of him and look where he is today.

 

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TCF Coaches: We can’t and he’s left our groups and come back to our group so guide them anytime I don’t think Charlie we can keep you out of the group, because when you leave the group after a couple of months you get group withdrawal you start to know oh my God, I find myself sliding backwards.

 

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TCF Coaches: Now i’m talking to Charlie like he’s not in front of me but Charlie is any of what I said a lie, or is it all the truth.

 

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Charlie: that’s 100% the truth Steve The one thing you were just saying is when you to leave a group you start to get lazy really I mean we had some success we’ve implemented those week we’ve done the first few things there and it works so imagine if I continue to implement all of it.

 

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TCF Coaches: Dave net correctly it’s.

 

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TCF Coaches: 440 $6,000 yeah okay net yeah now you just show it off.

 

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TCF Coaches: But you know good good for you and you know I want you, I want you in a place in your life that 46,000 bucks doesn’t even matter to you.

 

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TCF Coaches: It really doesn’t like if you made $100,000 mistake at this point in your time, yes or no, could you live with yourself.

 

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Charlie: Honest yes.

 

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TCF Coaches: Right now, this point charlie’s a Yes, he could he could do it, I want to see everybody else in the chat box I don’t know what we got on the show today 40 of us on the show today.

 

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TCF Coaches: Could you make $100,000 mistake and be okay, with it, you wouldn’t like it i’m not asking anyone to like it, but you know okay I just bought a couple of zeros but I got a lot more zeros backed up behind me.

 

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TCF Coaches: I mean literally look at the answers I don’t accept for Charlie I don’t know I don’t see anybody.

 

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TCF Coaches: That says yes i’m okay with.

 

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TCF Coaches: That you know that tells me Tom that tells me these these people on the webinar exactly where they need to be today.

 

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TCF Coaches: Absolutely, because I hope after you hear what Tom has to say today which Tom doesn’t even know he’s going to say yeah that a switch flips on you go, you know what i’m in the right place at the right time.

 

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TCF Coaches: Because, do you yes or no, do you feel like holy shit this is kind of my fat my last hurrah I got to make this shit work ramen real trump who feels like that that at this point in your life and your business that you got to make this work, because this is it.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know, after 44 years old, for the most part society will throw you away, they think you’re too old to invest in.

 

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TCF Coaches: And so, if you don’t have your shit together by 44 years old.

 

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TCF Coaches: it’s not looking good for you there’s one caveat to that.

 

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TCF Coaches: Those people that have their own businesses that get their shit together after 44.

 

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TCF Coaches: can make it.

 

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TCF Coaches: yep that’s the difference and that’s where you’re sitting right now.

 

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TCF Coaches: And you’re right i’ve lost more than that and opportunity cost man, he says, I bet you if we added up opportunity last cost in this entire group just to 40 people on here it’d be $40 million.

 

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TCF Coaches: Or, more yeah Tom in your personal opinion go back 25 years you’re painting business, and you know the shit that we’ve been teaching for now eight years how many millions of you left on the people.

 

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TCF Coaches: shit.

 

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TCF Coaches: I don’t even know if you can put a number to it, but the first one that came to my mind was over the course of my whole career of the 20 years at least 100 million dollars.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know.

 

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TCF Coaches: And just in my student I first two years of business.

 

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TCF Coaches: My head was jacked up and just tactically I didn’t even keep in.

 

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TCF Coaches: touch with past customers, I had no database, I was just out there hustling and then and I figured based on what we know now about our database several years later I went back and did the math and looked at all my customer lists and average.

 

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TCF Coaches: lifetime value in this and that and the first year and a half, two years I I I lost out on at least $2 million just in the first two years by not having my shit together so compound that over a couple decades right so.

 

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TCF Coaches: So.

 

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TCF Coaches: Tom you can read the slide I actually.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah so so guys with with all these calls.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know, we know that overwhelms real one, of the one of the reasons that we put the two programs together and made battleground this year and and this and that we’re trying to streamline some things is to reduce the fire hose effect.

 

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TCF Coaches: Guy there’s so much here so take what you need if this call is not for you, if any of the calls are not view hop off and catch a replay and get your aspect to work.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right, the knowledge that you’re learning is no good if you’re not implementing things, and so one of the things we’ve seen through the years is sometimes people are.

 

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TCF Coaches: what’s the what serial webinar watchers but they don’t do shit to implement and that’s not what we want here second thing i’m going to say, is, I know there’s.

 

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TCF Coaches: guys you got it you can’t be a fly on the wall in this group, I mean you can, if you choose to, but if you really want to get the benefit of the coaching and the membership and things like that.

 

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TCF Coaches: be involved, use the Facebook group use hashtags you know, like ask a coach or something whatever fucking hashtag is now for that.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know if you if you have a question about your numbers, or whatever post and ask a specific coach guys, we are not going to say this.

 

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TCF Coaches: We are not going to do all the heavy lifting for you, you have to Charlie and nutter a perfect example and so many others.

 

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TCF Coaches: Like they took action they implemented they showed up, they did the stuff they’re being coached on they asked question and things like as questions.

 

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TCF Coaches: And so, our coaching team is not sitting on Facebook you guys watching the comments waiting for you to ask them a question.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay, so just they’re building their businesses and the fight and all these we have jobs too.

 

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TCF Coaches: Alright, so you have to be assertive and type in their you know, like Steve What do you do to blah blah blah Greg I have a question about this because you’re a gc like be specific and we will bend over backwards to help you I just see a lot of.

 

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TCF Coaches: posts that are out there with not a lot of specific ask if that makes sense So hopefully that makes sense.

 

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TCF Coaches: By this time you kind of know the forte of every coach every coach.

 

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TCF Coaches: Most of us can do everything, but most of us gravitate towards one thing, for instance I just gravitated towards the mindset thing I just like that that’s what turns me on.

 

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TCF Coaches: And by the way, I just put a little here’s your your April calendar Those are the things to show up for you can circle them to the ones you want to go live or make sure you hit the recording, I just wanted to point out that normally.

 

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TCF Coaches: I don’t do a lot of open coaching and i’m excited when I get to do on this Tuesday i’m doing one, so, if you like, Steve and you want to hear my stuff and you got some questions show up okay we’re going to have a good time and and.

 

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TCF Coaches: Like Tom everything that comes out of my mouth is just what’s going on in my head right on my sleeve, and in my heart at the moment we don’t practice for the shit I didn’t go to MBA school for this stuff.

 

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TCF Coaches: it’s just raw and real from a guy who candidly has already gone and done what you’re trying to go and do.

 

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TCF Coaches: So there you go but Tom I want to answer a question Terry has so he had there’s a good conceptual question up here.

 

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TCF Coaches: It basically i’ll just paraphrase it because there’s so many millions left on the table, like what we just talked about okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: Why do we do this is there some sort of secret society that that makes all the money and the rest of us just Milan and be okay or mediocrity, I mean is that the deal, why, why do, why are we just okay with average.

 

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TCF Coaches: and think about that Tom because I got.

 

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TCF Coaches: Let me tell you something we have this expression we we talked about a bunch called ostrich management, a lot of us like to put our head in the sand and pretend the shit in the future is going to stay out in the future.

 

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TCF Coaches: Where every day you wake up you’re one day closer to that future and if you’re not doing the shit today Tom and I preach this all the time, the stuff you’re doing the day will determine the person you’re going to wake up and be in 20 years.

 

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TCF Coaches: Honest to God you can’t mess around with this stuff you can’t wake up and go today i’m just going to be a lazy piece of shit.

 

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TCF Coaches: and not make one iota of an inch of forward towards your goal, so this is why we do it, I just think.

 

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TCF Coaches: Very few people are proactive about their future, how many of y’all have actually thought about design, we did a whole webinar I don’t know when about designing the life that you want like reverse engineer that stuff.

 

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TCF Coaches: simply think about the thing we just talked about with the $50,000 in the money and the retirement.

 

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TCF Coaches: Whatever your goal is and one day we’ll do a money thing we’ll do the calculator so you’ll know exactly how much money you need but trust me it’s in the millions, if not hundreds of thousands it’s millions.

 

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TCF Coaches: That you’ll need to support yourself, for the last 2030 years you have on this planet.

 

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TCF Coaches: Tom do you have any idea I know Tom TOMS done the calculated thing I don’t know every time I do a thing does it, but I can promise you Tom needs millions of dollars by time he’s what are you going to retire when you’re a year to retire Tom.

 

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TCF Coaches: When I am 65 years old, which is what am I now 5213 years okay and.

 

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TCF Coaches: How many millions, would you think you needed the Bank to fun, because at 65 you’re pretty healthy guy you might lift 30 more years honestly yeah 20.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay, so you can live 20 more years after that.

 

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TCF Coaches: No 20,000,020 million okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: So I want real quick, I want to say something to before you move on to this to Terry.

 

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TCF Coaches: The so many people leaving money on the table, year after year, real quick I because I had something that I wrote down here I didn’t want to miss it because I know you’re starting to get into the groove here.

 

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TCF Coaches: I think people continue to leave money on the table, because they don’t keep the killer instinct going.

 

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TCF Coaches: I think we, we have a when we have a good month we have a good week we sell a big job we have a good year and then we take our foot off the gas we think at some point we’re going to hit cruise control in our business you guys and, and this is.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’ll tell you man that this is really hitting home with me just that whole.

 

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TCF Coaches: Attack mindset in fact I see it, when I do sales training workshops and things like that for companies and their and their teams that most sales people you guys.

 

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TCF Coaches: Are content they’re waiters they’re waiting they’re waiting for shit to happen and I read something this morning, one of the books i’m reading right now it’s called winning by TIM grover and he talks about how.

 

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TCF Coaches: winning success, however, you guys want to talk it i’ll tell you what that right, the ship down, I wrote it down.

 

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TCF Coaches: He said winning is elusive, but when you finally catcher and you get a seat at the table of winning.

 

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TCF Coaches: winning gives you the Chair with the broken leg, so you can never quite be comfortable at the table.

 

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TCF Coaches: Just picture that picture pulling up to a table right out scooting up to a table, and you know, one of the legs is broken.

 

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TCF Coaches: How are you going to sit in that chair you’re going to have some discomfort like party is gonna be like hey it’s nice to be at the table, but I know any minute now this Chair could break and have to be on my ass.

 

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TCF Coaches: And guys, I think, Terry That is why so many people leave money on the table, why they don’t move to those next levels in their business and their health or whatever is because.

 

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TCF Coaches: We think once we’ve won at some point, like we’ve arrived, and I remember feeling that way Steve many years ago with.

 

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TCF Coaches: With our painting business, we finally got our crew dialed in we got all the right people off the team fired 12 what was seven guys what the hell, it was in 20 minutes on a black Monday I called it, and we had our right five guys.

 

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TCF Coaches: That five six painters, and then we added a couple more, and I think we hovered around nine or 10 and we were making more money, with the right nine or 10 guys and we were with 25 or 30 back when we had that.

 

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TCF Coaches: And what I realized Steve is like I like.

 

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TCF Coaches: Just because you have your team built doesn’t mean that recruiting and training, and all this other stuff stops now.

 

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TCF Coaches: Right you got it, you have we have to keep showing up and we took our foot off the gas and a couple guys left, and it was a wake up call.

 

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TCF Coaches: Alright, so many of you guys i’ve seen some post this year already, and this month we’re guys like i’ve sold the biggest job i’ve ever sold in my career and i’m having the best quarter have ever had guys.

 

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TCF Coaches: you’re in a broken chair sitting at the winning table right now all right, and if you take your eye off the, off the ball of winning and the effort in the grind and the focus.

 

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TCF Coaches: You are going to be that chair is gonna break and you’re going to be back on your ass again because it happens to people all the time, so that’s what I thought of when I saw serious question so all right.

 

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TCF Coaches: So he wants to know, and I don’t really understand the question is there a list of the Facebook bucket calls, what does that even mean Tom do you know.

 

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TCF Coaches: that’s in the Member site you’ll just go to past webinars if that’s what you’re looking for, if you have a more specific question then i’m reading it there that’s how I read it as you’re looking for past calls but.

 

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TCF Coaches: Or you can ask Nicole yeah info.

 

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TCF Coaches: info info at the contractor that are.

 

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TCF Coaches: Either just technical yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: pretty much asked these kind of questions to anybody, but Tom and me.

 

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TCF Coaches: alright.

 

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TCF Coaches: Alright, so.

 

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TCF Coaches: The Tom and I eat our own cooking.

 

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TCF Coaches: Or we hypocrites are we doing the shit that we’re telling you to do.

 

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TCF Coaches: The reason why Charlie Ross turned it around is because he just kept coming back and hang out with people.

 

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TCF Coaches: That were where he wanted to be.

 

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TCF Coaches: And when Tom and I met, we had a discussion, I mean we had multiple discussions about even getting together.

 

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TCF Coaches: Tom was, if I remember and i’m not, I want to put words in your mouth Tom but you were pretty much finding your footing with your own personal coaching thing about 10 or 12 years ago was that about where you’re at.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah about 10 years ago I.

 

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TCF Coaches: sold my half of the painting company got out started speaking started coaching had I did everything I could to get away from the contract and world, so I ended up coaching chiropractors and book publishers and and different companies and things like that and decided.

 

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TCF Coaches: I needed to niche back to contract I got it up with this hey mute yourself, whoever, that is.

 

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TCF Coaches: district.

 

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TCF Coaches: Then there you go alright cool.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m gonna get them all Tom just go ahead and just unmute yourself now I just killed everybody.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right, I mean that nice way yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: So i’m sorry go ahead, where were you before the well.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah right so yeah but it doesn’t your 1012 years ago is when I really started.

 

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TCF Coaches: full time coaching and speaking and doing what we’re doing now.

 

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TCF Coaches: Right so ultimately Tom and I agreed that we would go forward and start this this this exact group, but it would had different names back then.

 

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TCF Coaches: And we had this discussion because I had already had a partnership that was probably the best.

 

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TCF Coaches: and worst relationship of my entire life, I mean for 811 years we were together, it was a dream come true, and for the last three we started stopped communicating and then.

 

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TCF Coaches: It it went so South quickly at the end I literally, two years later, had to go see a shrink, for the first time in my life, just to figure some shit out.

 

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TCF Coaches: And i’m glad I did so when I got a hold of Tom like okay Tom we’re going to be attached at the hip and be partners, I gotta tell you, though, um it’s I got to talk about everything, and I got to talk about everything, a lot, so you and I never fall apart and.

 

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TCF Coaches: When you start to be really open and totally honest and totally vulnerable with each other.

 

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TCF Coaches: This is when you start to grow together and that’s exactly what Tom and I have done, Tom and I are not the same people not even close.

 

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TCF Coaches: To the same person as when we met and, to be honest and i’ll just say it on my side of the table Tom and I never met you.

 

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TCF Coaches: Besides, I wouldn’t be here, and all this kind of stuff I wouldn’t be the person I am today you just by hooking up with you, you helped pave the way with some of your crazy ideas.

 

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TCF Coaches: That it’s okay to get up and say what what you’ve done it’s okay to get up and say what you feel it’s okay to just just speak the truth and speak from the heart.

 

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TCF Coaches: None of that should ever would have happened, and my life is 180 degrees different right now, because of you, but it’s because we have a willingness to truly share.

 

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TCF Coaches: Even the deepest crap I mean think of all the conversations we’ve had over 10 years about the most personal stuff it’s like.

 

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TCF Coaches: I remember you know my wife and I we’ve done on and often marriage counseling for three four years, and when we never done it that the shrink.

 

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TCF Coaches: She always goes well Steve if you want to do, individual sessions i’m available for that, too, and i’m like no i’m good because I actually have people like Tom.

 

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TCF Coaches: That I can talk to openly and honestly about everything and i’m in hold nothing back.

 

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TCF Coaches: In fact you’ll see a slide in this later on that most people in this group in our groups, ever since we started the number one thing they say.

 

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TCF Coaches: It besides, you know we came for this sales and we’re staying for the Community, because it’s so great, but because I can say stuff to my this group I can’t even tell my spouse I can’t even tell my family.

 

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TCF Coaches: And this was our relationship to we we could talk openly because we didn’t judge one another.

 

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TCF Coaches: We didn’t we didn’t try to slap each other down or be better than each other, we truly have been there for each other, now we Evan flow, like any other relationship, but we’ve been there for each other openly discussing absolutely everything period yep.

 

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TCF Coaches: And the growth that we’ve both experience and a lot of you that that have been i’m i’m looking at a picture of Lisa oren and she because she was i’m just picking you out Lisa because you are.

 

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TCF Coaches: You are with us, eight years ago, I think, and because so you’ve seen this whole progression unfold before your very eyes and I picked these two pictures.

 

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TCF Coaches: Because on the picture on the left is Tom and I went with just started just share with each other about everything and appointed this, by the way, is for you to have someone you can do this with.

 

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TCF Coaches: Whether it’s within this group or without of this group, this is what this is what you need this is why I push partnerships because.

 

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TCF Coaches: If you truly have that one special person on this planet, that you can really mind dump into and vice versa, and not judge one another, then you get the picture on the right everything brightens up and you just you are lifting each other up.

 

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TCF Coaches: and

 

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TCF Coaches: Tom you could talk about your own journey your own demons and stuff, but you have lifted me up.

 

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TCF Coaches: Well, more than you’ll ever know.

 

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TCF Coaches: Why, I can appreciate that and I can honestly say it works both ways because i’m not.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know i’m not complemented with the things you know you talked about the crazy ideas I had, and this and that blah blah blah.

 

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TCF Coaches: guys Steve came along, at a time where my confidence was probably at an all time low, and he was actually somebody who.

 

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TCF Coaches: Who was like man you kind of know your shit you know, and I think it’s because I approached it from the mindset thing honestly I mean that’s our very first conversation was about mindset, it was different right.

 

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TCF Coaches: Then than most most others, you know Steve I do have one regret, though, when when we met I remember, I was coaching high school football back in Illinois it was before I moved to Colorado.

 

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TCF Coaches: And you were going to hire me to do coaching for Logan to coach Logan on the marketing and does anyone know what my biggest regret might be I just met Steve maybe a couple weeks earlier just curious were on the phone he had inquired about me coaching Logan.

 

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TCF Coaches: and getting their marketing going, and this, and that any guesses in the chat box what my biggest regret was.

 

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TCF Coaches: This ought to be fun.

 

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TCF Coaches: Starting video sooner, you did not hire Logan not investing didn’t charge Cobra so you got it I didn’t charge Steve enough.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah that’s it because I didn’t know Stephen guys my mind I had just remember I just taken a beating a couple years earlier, I filed bankruptcy.

 

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TCF Coaches: Like there was some bad shit happening man, you know i’ve done really well and i’ve done really poorly and I was there were things personally that were going on, and this is it, and so, when I say my confidence was at an all time low, I didn’t have the full.

 

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TCF Coaches: view of myself that I think I should have had right that we should all have so I just want to encourage you, if you’re in that point, right now, where you are really like.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know you feel like you could sit on the edge of a penny and your feet wouldn’t touch the ground right that low and your confidence i’ve been there if you’re down in the dumps like that.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m telling you it the way out is is the Community that you hang with i’m telling you right now, because Steve what you did is you started we’d have conversations and you would use words like.

 

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TCF Coaches: Why, I remember the first time, our guys throw this out there, most business coaches i’ll just tell you this right now, this was a Stat many years ago, most business coaches don’t make $26,000 a year that was like the average income for a business coach think about that okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: And I remember starting the very first training sales training that Stephen I did it was going to be 12 weeks and Steve you said to me something like hey if we don’t each put at least 2530 grand in our pocket at the end of these 12 weeks i’m done.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay, so just think about that for a minute, just when you elevate when you hang around people that think at a different level when they go it’s only 30 bucks or 30,000 bucks.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay, what happens to your mindset right your mind changes.

 

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TCF Coaches: And you begin to see what’s possible you begin to take some chances on yourself and this and that so you know Steve the whole point of that is back at you like I I can’t imagine like I.

 

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TCF Coaches: I have no doubt i’d be successful, but I know I would not be on the trajectory I am now without you know this relationship, so thank you.

 

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TCF Coaches: Personally, is all like I could go on forever on personal stuff because Steve was with me for very dark days through you know the divorce and all that other stuff guys, it was it was fuckin dark for a while.

 

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TCF Coaches: And i’m bringing this up to this level with you guys, because I know you know you got on the call right now 52 people are so I pretty much can guarantee there’s probably four or five you guys are in a fucking dark place right now.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right, and you know I remember Steve being at a point where.

 

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TCF Coaches: Zero looked good if I could just get back to zero anyone ever feel that way you know you’ve had your ass kicked so much financially you just want to get the even again right Jason said yeah James yeah James story as well man so anyway brother, I appreciate you.

 

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TCF Coaches: Oh.

 

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TCF Coaches: You ever been in a movie theater and the person behind you, is eating candy and they’re going, you know each one individually wrapped and and instead of enjoying the movie.

 

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TCF Coaches: All you can hear is this person, you know what the rappers and eat the candy and you hear everything behind you, instead of anything in front of you, yes or no.

 

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TCF Coaches: You understand what i’m talking about you experienced this like you let shit that that has nothing to do with why you went to the movies ruin your experience.

 

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TCF Coaches: This is how money is.

 

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TCF Coaches: People that money ruin their experience.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m going to go through it just a couple of stats off the top of my head today because I went through them earlier today.

 

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TCF Coaches: The last time I scrutinized when do you think the last time I scrutinize a restaurant bill was.

 

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TCF Coaches: When is the last time I even looked at the restaurant bill, you know how I look at the restaurant bill when they bring it and I look at it and it says her 50 bucks that’s just my wife and I I look at 150 bucks and I go was this is overall experience worth 150 bucks.

 

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TCF Coaches: And as Tom and I have done shit 100 times we like to sit at the bar because he get this more action, the bartenders a pet services better you get to taste, all the different tequilas and whiskeys and beers I mean it’s just a better experience.

 

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TCF Coaches: I don’t really care what people charge me for that kind of stuff when when Tom and I will you know, if you remember this when Tom sends me his first bill or two from Logan i’m like Tom you’re not charging me enough and i’ve said that to 50 different contractors that I deal with.

 

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TCF Coaches: The man who picks up my trash or paint my house or does anything blows the gutters out you’re not charging me enough my logo guy you should charge me three bucks a logo to put on here so i’m like that’s ridiculous, how do you live.

 

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TCF Coaches: How would you send them 1000 bucks he sent me a bill for like 258 bucks I send them I send them a check for 1000 Steve you overpaid me know I didn’t.

 

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TCF Coaches: You under charge me.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah you have to charge me you can’t stand I don’t know how you do, that I two guys blow my roofs off and gutters the other day or two men pickup truck 48 ladders of all kinds of sizes and they climbed oh it’s 250 bucks.

 

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TCF Coaches: And a real money do you make quick if you’ve been to steve’s House you know it ain’t a small house i’m talking height two.

 

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TCF Coaches: guys, it is not an easy job for 250 bucks and so those of you that are climbing your asses on a roof you got to ask yourself.

 

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TCF Coaches: Take take this, this was a wake up call for me Steve many years ago with my painting business.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m looking at this big ass to story for all the things that could go wrong, the hardwood floors could be scratched and this and that you know rodney knows what i’m talking about Terry knows what i’m talking about their painters they’re looking at this like going holy shit like.

 

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TCF Coaches: And my software came up with like 1200 bucks to paint this foyer based on whatever I input it right and I looked at it and I went to.

 

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TCF Coaches: Art if I just take a 10% net profit, am I willing to put some guys in this House and it if everything goes right we’re on time on budget all this other shit Am I willing to do this job for $120.

 

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TCF Coaches: that’s basically how I started working the math when I got my pricing in order as a painting contractor you guys i’m like I started going you just base it on a 10% net after your paid and all that other shit.

 

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TCF Coaches: Are you willing to do that job and fucking 50 bucks or 120 bucks and so these guys in your case Steve I know a couple guys in a truck and some ladders, but just think about that, are you willing to do a job, like that for $25.

 

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TCF Coaches: Right, that was a shift that I made many years ago with pricing my paint services was like I started thinking what of what’s the company going to make at the end of the day, on this thing and is that worth it so anyway sorry hijack your $250 story with your guys in a truck.

 

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TCF Coaches: it’s just it’s not the money it’s the way you think about money, money is not your problem.

 

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TCF Coaches: it’s the way you think about money is your problem, if you have a money problem we talked a lot about last year to 21 of all the problems you had, and please we got over 50 people on the call put down what percentage of your problems were in some way attached to money.

 

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TCF Coaches: Of all your problems last year was it 80% 50% 20% zero what percentage of your problems all last year had anything to do with money.

 

301

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TCF Coaches: At 4019 75% at at 2530.

 

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TCF Coaches: At.

 

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TCF Coaches: 4090 if you can’t articulate this and put this in writing, then I think you’re in the wrong webinar today.

 

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TCF Coaches: The problems, I remember 100%.

 

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TCF Coaches: Yes, 70 but here’s the point that’s that’s the goal.

 

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TCF Coaches: The goal is literally for you not have to worry about money and and we define how do you know when you have enough money.

 

307

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TCF Coaches: When you no longer worry about it.

 

308

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TCF Coaches: that’s your number when you no longer really worry about it that’s your number.

 

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TCF Coaches: When I was with Tom and we started this thing up at TOMS see I don’t know the coaching world Tom did because he was a coach and I knew nothing about it, I still know nothing about it but don’t tell anyone.

 

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TCF Coaches: He was going well, this course is 99 a month this course is 99 a month this guy’s a 79 a month and i’m and i’m sitting there thinking.

 

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TCF Coaches: I can’t do anything for $99 I mean I don’t think in terms of hundreds, nothing is hundreds of dollars, everything is thousands of dollars in this world today.

 

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TCF Coaches: college college education your retirement, even a vacation.

 

313

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TCF Coaches: What, what do you think you spend on your average one week vacation.

 

314

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TCF Coaches: You don’t want to speak to what you just said when we started night, I was in that coaching work guys.

 

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TCF Coaches: I was normally 50 to 100% more expensive than every competitor of mine, when I had my painting business okay like we were averaging up.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know, is a fifth 48 to a 55% gross profit on it at the end of any job that we job cost of right and I it’s not uncommon that you know we i’d have a customer that I charged 10 grand and the other 18,000 bids, they got were 30 $500 and I would get the job okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: But then what’s funny is I reverted right back to my poor mindset when I started my coaching business.

 

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TCF Coaches: And that’s what steve’s talking about here because I remember, we always talk about don’t give a shit about what the going rate is.

 

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TCF Coaches: I started I defaulted to what the going rate was instead of going know what’s the value that we’re bringing and that’s what I want to leave you or encourage you guys with is like.

 

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TCF Coaches: doesn’t matter what you’re doing you could quit what you’re doing right now, you still need the money you need to live.

 

321

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TCF Coaches: You deserve you know if you’re adding value to people and changing their lives, making their life easier okay taking pressure off them, giving them what they want, then you need to be paid for it.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know, last night I did alive, and I was talking about, if you wanted to make 100 grand a year and Mike Miller chimed in he’s like 100 grand hearing shit anymore.

 

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TCF Coaches: right and it ain’t yet most people guys, the average income in America okay last I checked is somewhere around 45 to $55,000 if you think about that.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right, and that’s why so many people are stressed, is they don’t get out of their own way with money.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: So.

 

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TCF Coaches: Like that comparison is the thief of joy.

 

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TCF Coaches: The way we get into this world i’ll tell it like this, because because we try to compare ourselves to our industry and.

 

329

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TCF Coaches: And I always say that had I.

 

330

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TCF Coaches: In upon world, most of us were starving artists and we had zero back business background, in fact, the only the only way we even knew how to run a couple.

 

331

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TCF Coaches: Companies because the big manufacturer we try to teach us how to do it and all they ended up doing was teaching a bunch of broke.

 

332

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TCF Coaches: pond people how to remain broke because they didn’t really teach them really anything about business i’m just being blunt true here and I when I got on stage and and i’m making literally 10 times what most people are making.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m thinking, thank God, I grew my business up in my own vacuum and didn’t listen to you because, if I don’t listen to the to the mothership I still been broke.

 

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TCF Coaches: And the point is it comes back to comparing yourself to others comparison is the thief of joy and had I looked at these other business coaches and go $99 well I guess what the going rate that’s all I don’t give a shit.

 

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TCF Coaches: Remember what I told you, I I pay my bill at the restaurant based on experience that’s what I want if i’m going to hang with Tom for 12 weeks and we’re going to change a few lives that’s worth a hell of a lot more $99.

 

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TCF Coaches: To a bunch of people that think nothing about taking a $50,000 windfall by the new duly truck with it yep that’s not gonna happen, so I don’t compare myself, and what I get and what I do to anybody else i’m like that jobs, going to be a pain in the ass and so is that homeowner.

 

337

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TCF Coaches: So instead of $66,000 I want $30,000.

 

338

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TCF Coaches: How many, you have the courage to do that.

 

339

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TCF Coaches: In my first year business I did that twice in the same freakin week I just met two men I knew they were rich, but I knew that were pain, the ass and I knew what they want is like, very few people would do what i’m about to do for them.

 

340

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TCF Coaches: And these were what the mothership per se and charge $6,000.

 

341

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TCF Coaches: I looked each other on Monday nights it is $30,000 really yep what do we need to start i’ll pick a check for $10,000.

 

342

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TCF Coaches: I think it’s just that’s it because I otherwise, if I wasn’t even going to be upset if I left we’re going to get this for my number we’re going to get this job for my number so i’m happy in the head.

 

343

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TCF Coaches: And these two men, they could never find anybody else that would appropriately kiss their ass like I did through the project.

 

344

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TCF Coaches: One project before days one project took me five days I made $24,000 on the four day one, and $26,000 on a five day one, or vice versa.

 

345

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TCF Coaches: How you like that.

 

346

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TCF Coaches: So.

 

347

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TCF Coaches: Let me ask this question to the group.

 

348

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TCF Coaches: If you ever come up with a price for your service and you’re looking at the thing, and he went holy shit that’s that’s a ton of money that’s a lot of money.

 

349

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TCF Coaches: Oh, my God I can’t send this that’s a lot of money.

 

350

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TCF Coaches: So.

 

351

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TCF Coaches: I think it was yesterday Terry you had shared, you know that sometimes you feel like you’re over complicating thing with your bids, and all this other stuff right and I said the Terry something you don’t have all the context here but along some lines, I said.

 

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TCF Coaches: One of the problems that I had when I felt like I had to itemize everything and all justify my prices was it I knew I would never pay that amount of money for that service in my house.

 

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TCF Coaches: Right, so when you’re a painter you know you know what it really costs to do it and just to paint your House and so it’s going to cost you 500 and you’re like oh I gotta charge 15 to run a business 1500.

 

354

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TCF Coaches: For this thing, but you know it’s really five man i’d never spend 1500 dollars, because I know how to do it myself.

 

355

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TCF Coaches: Right, so a lot of us have that that story playing or mind that we’re just not confident.

 

356

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TCF Coaches: In our pricing, because we wouldn’t pay it and Steve that’s a big thing I think we’ve helped a lot of people through the years I want to bring kind of back here a little bit is you can’t.

 

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TCF Coaches: it’s it’s number one it’s not your job to find somebody money for them it’s your job to propose a price that allows you to make a profit.

 

358

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TCF Coaches: A healthy profit to keep you in business and the feed all the models that you have to feed and and invest and all these other things.

 

359

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TCF Coaches: and deliver a great value in a service and what i’ve learned through the years you guys is, you have to separate what you think about the price from the reality of the value you’re bringing somebody.

 

360

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TCF Coaches: A case in point, I I got a referral to a local landscape company because Heiner doesn’t do this, he did all my yard stuff.

 

361

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TCF Coaches: I need a spring cleanup done, I need a weed service, and all this other stuff I filled out a form didn’t get a call I called a day later left a voicemail finally got I never got a call, but last night I got an email alright, and the email was for six visits throughout the year.

 

362

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TCF Coaches: Okay throughout the season they’re gonna charge me 532 bucks.

 

363

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TCF Coaches: Okay, and where this is kind of back to leaving money on the table.

 

364

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TCF Coaches: i’m like I just replied like can you call me because I have kind of a unique situation, I want to make sure that we’re on the same page and i’ll even send you some pictures.

 

365

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TCF Coaches: Okay, or a video or some guys number one I don’t have grass, I have Turk, and they proposed a grass service but they’ve didn’t call me back so my point is if they would have called back.

 

366

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TCF Coaches: and got into my head about the motive and what’s important me they would know I don’t want to lift a cell in my body to take care of this.

 

367

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TCF Coaches: weed issue and stuff that if we don’t get on will screw up our landscape this thing is worth five grand to me for the season, at least, and they’re charging me $532.

 

368

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TCF Coaches: Okay, and I guarantee that if I were to sit down with the business owner and have a conversation, he would think that’s a lot of money.

 

369

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TCF Coaches: Okay guys you, you cannot project your beliefs about money on to other people.

 

370

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TCF Coaches: So Steve I know that’s kind of been your your mo through the years and a lot of you guys are in here like right now you’re on this call, this is the mindset call this is not a tactical call guys.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right, that’s what the other calls for Steven is calls are always on the mindset, how to think.

 

372

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TCF Coaches: How to approach things, how to think about certain things open your mind up and i’m telling you right now, if you don’t get this straight.

 

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TCF Coaches: About projecting your own beliefs about money on to others you’re going to have a really hard time selling your services that’s why.

 

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TCF Coaches: It hasn’t come out yet, but I interviewed TIM cutrone in Rhode island, when we were at this event, last week we did a live podcast interview and I asked him I said, what are you thinking about when you get on the phone with a prospect.

 

375

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TCF Coaches: So what’s running through your mind.

 

376

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TCF Coaches: All right, Tim don’t answer, what do you guys think TIM said to me on the podcast what is he thinking about as he gets on the phone with a prospect what’s running through his mind.

 

377

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TCF Coaches: yeah James you got it nothing.

 

378

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TCF Coaches: Nothing not not even that Mike i’m not it’s not i’m getting a check.

 

379

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TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

380

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TCF Coaches: Baba are they naked that’s funny.

 

381

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TCF Coaches: But guys, I mean Steve you know this TIM, if you remember, Tim before he was the sales guy that he’s kicking ass now right.

 

382

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TCF Coaches: And I guarantee he would be getting on the phone, like most of us going.

 

383

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TCF Coaches: Well, you know I hope they go for my price I hope they can afford me I hope this, I wonder, this blah blah blah and TIM is approaching every sales conversation you guys from a mindset view of a clean slate.

 

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TCF Coaches: It is a white canvas on the wall and we’re going to paint a picture and talk money and there’s zero agenda okay zero agenda and that’s because of the REPS that TIM has put in, through the years okay as he’s trained himself to not make any issue of there’s his issue.

 

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TCF Coaches: This is, we talk a lot about the inner roommate the losing your head and TIM had the loudest most obnoxious in a roommate that lived in his head.

 

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TCF Coaches: When I first met him and that’s all he’s done he’s learned to control his mind think about that mm hmm how many of you would like to learn how to control your mind and that’s really what it is he’s just not listening to the same old bullshit he listened to, for years.

 

387

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TCF Coaches: he’s like here’s the facts here’s where the cost shuts his mouth.

 

388

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TCF Coaches: gets a results.

 

389

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TCF Coaches: When when Tom talks about charging for the value that you produce.

 

390

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TCF Coaches: My first big I guess roadblock I ran into when I started speaking to the pond people is a we have this thing and ponds could string algae.

 

391

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TCF Coaches: It says long stringy thing it’s a pain in the ass a real pain yeah it takes a half a day to clean it out of your pawn off the rocks all this kind of stuff.

 

392

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TCF Coaches: Well, the mothership came up with that electronic gizmo that they sold I believe they sold it for like 299 bucks.

 

393

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TCF Coaches: That would make it so you don’t get this stuff in your pod and i’m like oh my God that’s like a miracle that’s amazing so I bought a bunch and I sold in a storm for 1500 bucks.

 

394

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TCF Coaches: So, probably cost me 100 bucks to install it, you know or so something like that, so it probably cost me three 400 bucks, to put it in I was charging 1500 bucks.

 

395

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TCF Coaches: What do you think the pod to pod wireless charging.

 

396

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TCF Coaches: Somebody give me a guest, what do you think upon world was charging for this electronic gizmos that they could put on your pot.

 

397

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TCF Coaches: The average price $400.

 

398

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TCF Coaches: You know, they said to me.

 

399

00:56:57.810 –> 00:57:02.970

TCF Coaches: you’re a shyster you’re ripping them off, how do you sleep with yourself at nighttime.

 

400

00:57:04.080 –> 00:57:06.420

TCF Coaches: Things like that i’m like wait a minute.

 

401

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TCF Coaches: I got this problem it’s a big problem it’s like a $10,000 problem I would pay 10 grand so I don’t have that shit on my pawn because that’s a big mess i’d pay 10 grand to make that problem go away that’s a big, the problem is.

 

402

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TCF Coaches: But faith and here’s mindset so that’s why i’m charging 1500 bucks I think i’m giving it away for free literally I feel bad with myself because i’m letting myself down i’m giving a shit away for free.

 

403

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TCF Coaches: The rest of the world is selling it for 400 bucks install.

 

404

00:57:40.620 –> 00:57:53.160

TCF Coaches: Which means they’re not making a nickel nope they think because you buy a piece of copper and plastic for 300 bucks i’m 10% good marked up.

 

405

00:57:53.730 –> 00:58:05.790

TCF Coaches: 330 plus local installation 400 bucks they they thought that was it um you know, the only con person i’m staring at in front of me is Lisa so she knows what i’m talking about here.

 

406

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TCF Coaches: So why are you solving a $10,000 problem for 400 bucks.

 

407

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TCF Coaches: It doesn’t make any sense but that’s what they were doing now here’s the weird facts forget about this in a roommate here’s the fact.

 

408

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TCF Coaches: guess who installed, the most of these devices in the country.

 

409

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TCF Coaches: And by a lot.

 

410

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TCF Coaches: me.

 

411

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TCF Coaches: I probably installed as much as in the first year I probably put as much as the other 10,000 pound guys put together put in.

 

412

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TCF Coaches: And at the highest price.

 

413

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TCF Coaches: And at the highest price.

 

414

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TCF Coaches: And people love oh my God I love it.

 

415

00:58:57.510 –> 00:59:06.210

TCF Coaches: Now caveat business business mentor moment a year later, you know what happened in the same they were a total piece of Chinese shit.

 

416

00:59:07.530 –> 00:59:08.520

TCF Coaches: Every one of i’m fail.

 

417

00:59:10.860 –> 00:59:11.730

TCF Coaches: So I had to get.

 

418

00:59:12.840 –> 00:59:23.430

TCF Coaches: I had that point, I had 150 of my think installed, I had to get 150 of these things from the manufacturer, which I had to beg them to give them to me for free.

 

419

00:59:25.770 –> 00:59:28.680

TCF Coaches: And they did, and I ran around the replaced every single one of them.

 

420

00:59:30.000 –> 00:59:40.290

TCF Coaches: And guys that’s an example of he’s honoring a warranty because he charged enough there’s other guys in the industry, we all know who they are, in our areas right that they don’t stand behind shit.

 

421

00:59:41.460 –> 00:59:46.140

TCF Coaches: Okay, so this is that red carpet service like you can’t just charge, you know.

 

422

00:59:48.480 –> 00:59:52.560

TCF Coaches: You know 1500 bucks for something and not give.

 

423

00:59:54.210 –> 00:59:57.030

TCF Coaches: Great service and great value to people okay.

 

424

01:00:00.630 –> 01:00:07.890

TCF Coaches: So when your back is up against the financial wall by doing stupid shit like charging $400 for a $300 device.

 

425

01:00:08.310 –> 01:00:20.100

TCF Coaches: Then you will never be able to provide great service ever it doesn’t matter because you’ll be bankrupt before you do, that I, I have this Tom is our last slide because it proves, a point.

 

426

01:00:22.650 –> 01:00:31.830

TCF Coaches: i’ve been sitting on my ass for three years now for years about writing a book for contractors and i’m finally going to write it and it’s this and I had this graphic.

 

427

01:00:32.580 –> 01:00:42.690

TCF Coaches: made for me it’s really a graphic about Steve and Tom together, though, because when I got off that first stage and Tom track me down.

 

428

01:00:43.170 –> 01:00:51.750

TCF Coaches: I went over all the numbers and all the communication all the leadership stuff and my whole year, and all this kind of stuff and it goes Steve all that stuff that’s fantastic, but you forgot.

 

429

01:00:52.770 –> 01:00:56.220

TCF Coaches: You forgot the biggest thing that contractors need to get over.

 

430

01:00:57.780 –> 01:01:05.700

TCF Coaches: And I remember my first dog shit here’s some business coach is going to try to sell me a services that’s what I thought you were doing to me.

 

431

01:01:06.540 –> 01:01:13.410

TCF Coaches: Because I said all right, what is it he goes it’s a mindset they got to get that shit right.

 

432

01:01:14.400 –> 01:01:18.090

TCF Coaches: And so I came up with this graphic because it kind of ties everything together.

 

433

01:01:18.570 –> 01:01:25.710

TCF Coaches: So you understand each one of these legs and it’s so funny Tom was talking about a stool three legged stool, and one of the legs goes out on you.

 

434

01:01:26.310 –> 01:01:36.330

TCF Coaches: Earlier, so this is all this is this is how two people more to be one, by the way, you’re witnessing this where where would those three legs be without the seat.

 

435

01:01:37.530 –> 01:01:39.840

TCF Coaches: which represents mindset to keep it all together.

 

436

01:01:41.370 –> 01:01:42.780

TCF Coaches: They weren’t be worship.

 

437

01:01:44.250 –> 01:01:49.200

TCF Coaches: What do you think about this, so it might be the numbers might be that that.

 

438

01:01:50.250 –> 01:01:52.950

TCF Coaches: $299 piece of electronic device.

 

439

01:01:54.030 –> 01:01:57.690

TCF Coaches: Okay, but your mindset lets you charge 1500 bucks for it.

 

440

01:01:59.190 –> 01:02:03.900

TCF Coaches: It might be the everybody else is charging 99 bucks for coaching I don’t give a shit.

 

441

01:02:05.070 –> 01:02:06.000

TCF Coaches: that’s not fair.

 

442

01:02:07.140 –> 01:02:11.880

TCF Coaches: it’s when Tom sends a bill for marketing for teaching Logan I like Tom that’s not enough.

 

443

01:02:13.650 –> 01:02:20.880

TCF Coaches: My account charging me three grand every year i’m like you don’t charge enough for what you do, for me, I couldn’t do this shit 3000 bucks, how do you live.

 

444

01:02:23.610 –> 01:02:27.000

TCF Coaches: Some of you look at me like like i’m crazy.

 

445

01:02:28.890 –> 01:02:41.730

TCF Coaches: But this isn’t, this is the place, you want to get to where money doesn’t matter, and not because you have an abundance of it or too much of it because you’ve got enough of it, so you never worry about it again.

 

446

01:02:45.060 –> 01:02:45.240

TCF Coaches: and

 

447

01:02:46.200 –> 01:02:47.910

TCF Coaches: When I when I look at this.

 

448

01:02:48.960 –> 01:02:51.090

TCF Coaches: stool this graphic you made.

 

449

01:02:52.260 –> 01:02:55.380

TCF Coaches: I don’t know if anyone can relate to this, but this was me many years.

 

450

01:02:57.150 –> 01:03:08.610

TCF Coaches: I actually knew my numbers, I was doing things to know my numbers, I was working on communication and guys communication is marketing right its sales it’s communicating with your team and expectations and things like that.

 

451

01:03:09.990 –> 01:03:12.930

TCF Coaches: You can be doing like.

 

452

01:03:14.700 –> 01:03:24.120

TCF Coaches: All the right things anyone ever done that, like you’re like i’m doing the right things I don’t know why i’m not more successful and it’s because your mind is still trapped in the past.

 

453

01:03:24.930 –> 01:03:27.480

TCF Coaches: your mind is still telling you the wrong stories.

 

454

01:03:28.350 –> 01:03:37.200

TCF Coaches: Okay, this is why it’s so important, like you might i’ve see it all the time, people are implementing but their mind is jacked up or their mind is solid that they’re not implementing.

 

455

01:03:37.860 –> 01:03:42.000

TCF Coaches: you’ve got to have the discipline, for both and so any of you guys that were.

 

456

01:03:42.870 –> 01:03:50.040

TCF Coaches: That are like I can’t figure out why i’m not growing my business why i’m not making more money it’s one of those two things.

 

457

01:03:50.520 –> 01:04:01.140

TCF Coaches: Alright, so that’s where you just got to check and you go man if i’m doing the right shit and i’m not making the money and what’s going on here, and I promise you that that will flip for you, when you dial all that in.

 

458

01:04:02.670 –> 01:04:10.320

TCF Coaches: So I want to wrap it up like this, I the progression and the advancement that both common i’ve made.

 

459

01:04:11.880 –> 01:04:25.260

TCF Coaches: looks like this within the last one year i’ll say we were bunch of us were at a bar and we decided to do shots now I don’t I don’t do shots but I like nice Bourbons and tequilas and i’ll SIP it, you know matt you one for one.

 

460

01:04:26.370 –> 01:04:31.620

TCF Coaches: So they live on they’re doing shots and I noticed the bottle they’re pulling from and i’m like.

 

461

01:04:33.090 –> 01:04:41.970

TCF Coaches: I don’t know what exactly going to charge a shot but it’s somewhere between 50 and 100 bucks a shot, for this is what is that tequila you drink cassius zoo.

 

462

01:04:42.450 –> 01:04:44.310

TCF Coaches: says oh yeah yeah.

 

463

01:04:44.520 –> 01:04:45.000

TCF Coaches: yeah do.

 

464

01:04:45.900 –> 01:04:46.800

TCF Coaches: You SIP that.

 

465

01:04:47.310 –> 01:04:48.690

TCF Coaches: yeah well.

 

466

01:04:49.980 –> 01:04:56.310

TCF Coaches: them up man Tom yeah get the white and the blue bottle up there and i’m like I know Tom knows that shit costs.

 

467

01:04:57.990 –> 01:04:58.290

TCF Coaches: But.

 

468

01:04:59.550 –> 01:05:10.290

TCF Coaches: there’s a value thing for me that’s T, if not a money, I really could care less than the bar bill was whatever was but i’m like if we’re going to do shots I don’t need to be shooting.

 

469

01:05:11.130 –> 01:05:21.990

TCF Coaches: $100 shot shit I can shoot you know $10 stuff, so there is a limit to all of this, but anyways the point is this.

 

470

01:05:24.270 –> 01:05:34.350

TCF Coaches: Most Members here’s my slide that says that they’re there they’re closer to and can share more personal things with people in this group, then they can really with their own family.

 

471

01:05:35.130 –> 01:05:45.030

TCF Coaches: Does that represent you that may say me too in the chat box if if this is you say me too or amen or give me something that says, you know.

 

472

01:05:45.630 –> 01:06:01.020

TCF Coaches: I actually can share more in this group, then I can anywhere else we should do this group to five and the five all that really was was a license to say anything you needed to say man and let it all out and everybody would be just be there going.

 

473

01:06:02.520 –> 01:06:19.470

TCF Coaches: good for you, you know so you’re in the right place, I see a lot of you are are saying that, so I just want to encourage you to you know stick together find someone or someone’s in this group that you know that you just align yourself with.

 

474

01:06:21.780 –> 01:06:29.220

TCF Coaches: grow with us all together this thing is it’s taken a new life of its own, this is a I guess at this point, this is a.

 

475

01:06:30.750 –> 01:06:42.210

TCF Coaches: battleground shit 8.0 is where we’re at right now, it seems like every year we we change it and Tom and I we a week, we did not go get our time do you have an MBA.

 

476

01:06:43.830 –> 01:06:46.140

TCF Coaches: Oh yeah it’s called bill packages house.

 

477

01:06:47.280 –> 01:07:01.740

TCF Coaches: taught me everything I need to know on Benton street in naperville Illinois colorblind attorney who called me on Christmas morning to bitch about a stain color on stairs and you know Steve what’s worse than somebody calling you on Christmas morning to pitch at you.

 

478

01:07:02.250 –> 01:07:03.510

TCF Coaches: You answering the guide in.

 

479

01:07:03.870 –> 01:07:06.270

TCF Coaches: answering the phone on Christmas morning yep.

 

480

01:07:06.330 –> 01:07:13.230

TCF Coaches: that’s what I would that was great so I want to get to justin’s question if guys, we have a question put it in there.

 

481

01:07:14.520 –> 01:07:18.090

TCF Coaches: What was your turning point to get you to that mindset um.

 

482

01:07:23.070 –> 01:07:25.590

TCF Coaches: You know I think for for me it was.

 

483

01:07:29.520 –> 01:07:33.630

TCF Coaches: I just kept showing up justin like I.

 

484

01:07:34.770 –> 01:07:44.670

TCF Coaches: It was not like this intentional like i’m going to work on my mindset I think what happened over time is I just did the shit that I felt I needed to do and I did them consistently.

 

485

01:07:45.330 –> 01:07:53.730

TCF Coaches: And that just built my confidence it built my chops I mean we all know, we’ve we’ve done things right, and I saw sometimes you have to act your way.

 

486

01:07:54.120 –> 01:08:02.370

TCF Coaches: And this is not fake it till you make it, this is like I am so strong and my conviction about this thing that i’m going to do this, like, for instance, when.

 

487

01:08:02.670 –> 01:08:09.360

TCF Coaches: I started I started creating content right and Steve you’ve said this publicly so i’ll say it again, for the first couple years.

 

488

01:08:09.510 –> 01:08:21.420

TCF Coaches: guys with with the group and stuff Steve was like when the Fuck is this content going to help us grow the business you’re doing all these videos doing all these podcasts and you know I don’t know if you remember that Steve I know you do.

 

489

01:08:21.450 –> 01:08:22.170

TCF Coaches: I do.

 

490

01:08:22.800 –> 01:08:36.570

TCF Coaches: And, and I just said, I know what the Fuck i’m doing, and so you guys that’s where I want you to be i’m going to be consistent, you could give a shit are not going to give a shit but i’m going to create content i’m going to make videos i’m going to add value to people.

 

491

01:08:37.050 –> 01:08:49.680

TCF Coaches: And i’m going to build a fucking community of people that want to win and want to get better and guys, it was I mean shit it was years I was, I was already doing that shit before I met Steve and.

 

492

01:08:50.730 –> 01:09:00.330

TCF Coaches: You know, it seemed like it was never moving the needle so justin back to your question, I just for me, it was my mindset my mindset shifted.

 

493

01:09:01.980 –> 01:09:13.080

TCF Coaches: When I was unapologetic about being consistent with things and number two when I started hanging around people like Steve and I leveled up my my.

 

494

01:09:13.740 –> 01:09:22.260

TCF Coaches: The mindset of the people I was hanging around with I mean, why are most contractors broken struggling because they hang out with broken struggling contractors.

 

495

01:09:23.040 –> 01:09:32.430

TCF Coaches: Right and you go, I want to raise my prices, and then they start telling you know that you can’t do that the market won’t bear that I used to hear that all the time from somebody.

 

496

01:09:33.660 –> 01:09:35.880

TCF Coaches: And i’m like well.

 

497

01:09:37.350 –> 01:09:42.930

TCF Coaches: I don’t give a Fuck with the market will bear i’m going to i’m going to create my own lane here okay and.

 

498

01:09:44.070 –> 01:09:49.140

TCF Coaches: So for me that’s what it was, it was who was who I was hanging with and just being consistent.

 

499

01:09:50.520 –> 01:09:53.610

TCF Coaches: Other questions here anything you guys need help with.

 

500

01:09:58.260 –> 01:10:00.600

TCF Coaches: here’s question Oh, it just moved on me.

 

501

01:10:01.860 –> 01:10:10.140

TCF Coaches: How many millions, should I have for retirement old mindset says two to three I get it’s personal but I need a target Steve you want to handle that one.

 

502

01:10:10.980 –> 01:10:15.660

TCF Coaches: wow yeah if you guys all want to stick around five minutes, we can do our calculator thing right here, right now.

 

503

01:10:16.140 –> 01:10:16.770

TCF Coaches: we’re good good.

 

504

01:10:17.280 –> 01:10:27.000

TCF Coaches: So you people are going to stick around i’ve met but it’ll change your life so leave I dare you to leave right now.

 

505

01:10:28.500 –> 01:10:33.690

TCF Coaches: Good get your calculators out here’s the exercise you ready, this is fun.

 

506

01:10:34.950 –> 01:10:36.330

TCF Coaches: figure out your monthly not.

 

507

01:10:37.890 –> 01:10:39.690

TCF Coaches: All the thing it takes you to live for a month.

 

508

01:10:40.950 –> 01:10:49.890

TCF Coaches: rent utilities truck gas beer movies clothes gifts insurances.

 

509

01:10:50.310 –> 01:10:53.220

TCF Coaches: Only fan subscription all that up.

 

510

01:10:53.310 –> 01:10:59.700

TCF Coaches: What what it whatever you need for a month to live literally add it all up put the number in the box.

 

511

01:11:01.440 –> 01:11:13.470

TCF Coaches: Put the number in the box, this is going to require you to actually add it up and participate put your weekly number in the box, right now, what are your monthly your monthly number in the box my monthly nudge 20,000 bucks.

 

512

01:11:15.600 –> 01:11:16.950

TCF Coaches: Now that’s a high ass number.

 

513

01:11:20.850 –> 01:11:22.950

TCF Coaches: 12,000 12,000 8000.

 

514

01:11:24.240 –> 01:11:27.210

TCF Coaches: Somebody doesn’t have $50,000 a month, this is a month.

 

515

01:11:27.690 –> 01:11:28.950

TCF Coaches: Johnny five and six.

 

516

01:11:28.950 –> 01:11:36.060

TCF Coaches: Good to live or thrive it’s to its to thrive it’s to live the life, you want to live it’s to be not worry about money okay.

 

517

01:11:36.240 –> 01:11:47.130

TCF Coaches: Well, it somewhere now you got to save some money for retirement somewhere in that you got to save college kids funds somewhere now you got to do this, even take the College kids funds out of if you want you still gotta live.

 

518

01:11:48.330 –> 01:11:53.190

TCF Coaches: So you take your big number, whatever that number is and you times 12.

 

519

01:11:54.510 –> 01:12:01.080

TCF Coaches: that’s 12 months out of the year that’s going to give you, your annual nut put that number in the box times 12.

 

520

01:12:02.100 –> 01:12:12.960

TCF Coaches: So your monthly number times 12 is what now if you’re driving I would pull over because this little exercise could potentially change your entire life.

 

521

01:12:14.070 –> 01:12:16.590

TCF Coaches: I know it’s changed hundreds of lives before.

 

522

01:12:18.360 –> 01:12:18.900

TCF Coaches: So.

 

523

01:12:19.980 –> 01:12:20.520

TCF Coaches: And let me.

 

524

01:12:20.550 –> 01:12:29.160

TCF Coaches: Let me challenge this real quick though Steve i’m seeing some of these annual numbers coming in guys if your numbers less than 100 you just need to make it at least 100.

 

525

01:12:30.150 –> 01:12:40.500

TCF Coaches: Okay Tony right because Uncle Sam still going to get his Okay, as you get older I don’t know about you guys, but as icon 52 Steve I know you’re in the situation where.

 

526

01:12:41.190 –> 01:12:53.790

TCF Coaches: People in our family, rightly so, and i’m happy to but they start leaning on us for support from time to time, you want to be able to help people you want to be able to give I guys life is expensive.

 

527

01:12:54.840 –> 01:12:59.580

TCF Coaches: Okay, just living life is expensive, those are the rules of the world that we live in.

 

528

01:13:00.660 –> 01:13:03.090

TCF Coaches: All right, so anyway sorry good.

 

529

01:13:03.600 –> 01:13:12.120

TCF Coaches: that’s Okay, and so, so you take your monthly not times 12 is your annual not you take that annual not you multiply that times 25.

 

530

01:13:12.660 –> 01:13:20.130

TCF Coaches: And the reason is because whenever you retire you’re probably going to live to be you could easily live for 30 more years, so you retire at 65.

 

531

01:13:20.430 –> 01:13:29.820

TCF Coaches: Not by time you get there 95 nothing I made my own man just lived at 90 he didn’t do anything to help himself, for the last 25 years, so you may go so.

 

532

01:13:31.110 –> 01:13:38.220

TCF Coaches: That big ass number, I want to see that number because that’s the number that you gotta save between now and when you want to retire.

 

533

01:13:40.380 –> 01:13:44.160

TCF Coaches: What is that 3,000,002 point 5,000,003.2 million.

 

534

01:13:45.930 –> 01:13:49.860

TCF Coaches: Come on 8.7 3,000,001.8.

 

535

01:13:51.660 –> 01:14:09.840

TCF Coaches: We still got 46 people on this call so put your number in there, because if you can articulate write down and post publicly post that number you’re on the wrong REP webinar right now I want you to just acknowledge okay that’s what I need that the funds about to start 30 seconds ago.

 

536

01:14:11.040 –> 01:14:22.050

TCF Coaches: Between now and whenever you retire how many years is that 10 years 20 years 30 years, whatever that is take your big number and divided by the working years you have left.

 

537

01:14:23.670 –> 01:14:27.030

TCF Coaches: So if it’s 3 million bucks and you’ve got.

 

538

01:14:27.750 –> 01:14:29.490

TCF Coaches: This is where everyone poops themselves.

 

539

01:14:29.910 –> 01:14:40.470

TCF Coaches: yeah okay so whatever that is put that number in there, put that number in the box, this is your big number times 25 that number.

 

540

01:14:41.670 –> 01:14:43.920

TCF Coaches: divided by how many years you have left.

 

541

01:14:45.600 –> 01:14:46.290

TCF Coaches: So you’re not.

 

542

01:14:46.320 –> 01:14:55.260

TCF Coaches: tell you 5 million new guys divided by by how many years you have left you have 10 years left divide 5 million by 10 years working years left.

 

543

01:14:57.420 –> 01:15:07.380

TCF Coaches: Okay, and so here’s a number to put those number that’s a number, I really wanted the box hundred 5254 and it’s 1600 44,000 come on play along.

 

544

01:15:08.460 –> 01:15:20.580

TCF Coaches: hundred 20,040 years 62,000 96,580 justin I don’t know what that means, it certainly must be 580,000 140,000.

 

545

01:15:22.050 –> 01:15:24.600

TCF Coaches: I want you to figure out what that number is for you.

 

546

01:15:26.070 –> 01:15:30.150

TCF Coaches: Connie 450 K i’m just going to pick on kami okay.

 

547

01:15:31.260 –> 01:15:42.630

TCF Coaches: I can see you Connie you’re in front of me, this is why i’m picking on you and you got a big you got a big ask number but i’m also going to leave you with a lot of hope and not make you feel terrible about this situation.

 

548

01:15:45.030 –> 01:15:46.890

TCF Coaches: buried is all the sound familiar to you.

 

549

01:15:50.790 –> 01:16:09.150

TCF Coaches: thumbs up Terry Terry w yeah alright, so you got $450,000 that you got to save every single year between now and when you want to retire Connie and kind of you can, if you got a MIC you can unmute yourself, because this is going to be a riveting conversation.

 

550

01:16:09.420 –> 01:16:09.720

At least.

 

551

01:16:11.640 –> 01:16:19.080

TCF Coaches: Well, well, I just want to be real I just I just I don’t want you to practice what we call the ostrich management, I want you to know.

 

552

01:16:19.470 –> 01:16:20.460

TCF Coaches: A bad or ugly.

 

553

01:16:20.580 –> 01:16:35.640

TCF Coaches: I want you to know right, so all right Connie I gotta ask you a few questions, just to get into this so for 50 how much do you have to make a year before you pay Uncle Sam to end up with 450 we do you think that numbers.

 

554

01:16:36.060 –> 01:16:40.230

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Emily between a million and a half and 2 million.

 

555

01:16:40.710 –> 01:16:52.170

TCF Coaches: OK, so the generally if you’re on a SSA you’re on a 45% tax bracket okay you got to say what was your number 450.

 

556

01:16:52.350 –> 01:16:58.020

TCF Coaches: Yes, okay you got to do for 50 so you got to make somewhere around 850 a year that’s what you got to make.

 

557

01:16:59.040 –> 01:17:01.710

TCF Coaches: A year now, you also got to live that year.

 

558

01:17:02.460 –> 01:17:03.690

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Okay, what.

 

559

01:17:03.720 –> 01:17:06.840

TCF Coaches: How much do you need every single year to live.

 

560

01:17:08.850 –> 01:17:11.160

TCF Coaches: What was your What was your times 12 number.

 

561

01:17:11.580 –> 01:17:18.510

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: of times well number was I apologize because it’s not what i’m making right now, so I have to do it again.

 

562

01:17:21.600 –> 01:17:31.380

TCF Coaches: hundred and 80,800 80,000 so you live a lifestyle that requires you to to to spend $180,000 a year right.

 

563

01:17:31.680 –> 01:17:36.270

TCF Coaches: yeah Okay, so now you take the 450 plus one at because you got to live.

 

564

01:17:36.390 –> 01:17:39.240

TCF Coaches: Right now that’s what does that say.

 

565

01:17:39.780 –> 01:17:52.770

TCF Coaches: 30,000 right so now you got to make about you got to make a million bucks plus a year, nearly 1.2 maybe, but a million dollars a year in your current business can you do that.

 

566

01:17:53.820 –> 01:17:55.830

TCF Coaches: You can make a million a year.

 

567

01:17:56.160 –> 01:17:56.730

Yes.

 

568

01:17:58.050 –> 01:18:10.530

TCF Coaches: that’s a hell of a business, if you can make a million dollars a year, I mean how many of y’all can say that wait, I just want to stop just put it in the chat box, how many y’all can I only want the yeses.

 

569

01:18:10.740 –> 01:18:20.970

TCF Coaches: And while they’re putting that in there Nicholas was like depends, if you take w two income or dividend but guys doesn’t matter what you’re not getting here is all the compound interest and all that other shit right.

 

570

01:18:21.150 –> 01:18:24.660

TCF Coaches: Right it’s just simple math now.

 

571

01:18:25.800 –> 01:18:31.650

TCF Coaches: You know not top line revenue in your pocket dylan this is in your personal pocket.

 

572

01:18:31.740 –> 01:18:36.840

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Yes, and point to in my pocket or a million point to in my business.

 

573

01:18:36.900 –> 01:18:37.650

TCF Coaches: In your pocket.

 

574

01:18:38.220 –> 01:18:43.620

TCF Coaches: If if you’re going to save for 50 plus spend one at you got to make a million to in your pocket.

 

575

01:18:44.700 –> 01:18:45.480

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Oh.

 

576

01:18:45.990 –> 01:18:47.250

TCF Coaches: For your own environment.

 

577

01:18:50.610 –> 01:19:01.650

TCF Coaches: See, these are the little facts that you need to know so you’re not shocked when you get to be as old as I am and wake up and realize that, oh no i’m going to be living on dogs.

 

578

01:19:01.830 –> 01:19:02.760

For the rest of my life.

 

579

01:19:04.800 –> 01:19:06.540

TCF Coaches: guys, let me throw this in here to.

 

580

01:19:10.350 –> 01:19:27.030

TCF Coaches: There are, this is meant to be a wake up call Okay, this was actually the wake up call that net and Charlie had to start socking away 100 bucks a week right and so i’m TIM says, I still get a little puke in my mouth alright.

 

581

01:19:28.290 –> 01:19:35.130

TCF Coaches: So here’s some options it’s okay like this is why, at the very least, like, I just want to throw out there Steve for somebody who’s like.

 

582

01:19:35.520 –> 01:19:41.940

TCF Coaches: Well there’s just I don’t have enough time left to retire right like I don’t have enough time.

 

583

01:19:42.270 –> 01:19:55.650

TCF Coaches: To build this stockpile maybe you’re thinking that and sell my business or whatever it is, and be able to retire, but this is This also makes the case guys why you have to have your shit together running your business so at the very least Connie.

 

584

01:19:55.950 –> 01:20:01.020

TCF Coaches: You could walk away from day to day operations and still pay yourself a couple hundred grand a year.

 

585

01:20:04.140 –> 01:20:05.400

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: that’s the goal okay.

 

586

01:20:05.580 –> 01:20:12.270

TCF Coaches: So, but this is just this is meant to be a wake up call of like guys, this is why we talk about money so much.

 

587

01:20:12.960 –> 01:20:13.350

Okay.

 

588

01:20:14.790 –> 01:20:15.450

TCF Coaches: options.

 

589

01:20:15.840 –> 01:20:35.010

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: So I have a question these kind of numbers are very new to me, and they are when i’m you know striving for so when you say you’re saying that I have to bring home not gross my business but I personally have to bring home a million to to make that happen.

 

590

01:20:35.940 –> 01:20:37.890

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Because I have a little confused right now, because I was.

 

591

01:20:37.890 –> 01:20:38.580

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: thinking that.

 

592

01:20:38.640 –> 01:20:41.040

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: that’s what my business has to bring in in the year.

 

593

01:20:41.670 –> 01:20:47.880

TCF Coaches: Now, because your business your business has all these expenses, I mean what’s your bottom line of your last year, how much money did your business make.

 

594

01:20:48.390 –> 01:20:49.650

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: We lost money last year.

 

595

01:20:49.860 –> 01:20:52.740

TCF Coaches: Okay, so that’s even not good.

 

596

01:20:53.760 –> 01:20:56.520

TCF Coaches: Out of my house to sugarcoat that for you, but.

 

597

01:20:57.570 –> 01:21:06.090

TCF Coaches: No, I mean you put this way let’s look like this, you got to put $450,000 away in a retirement account every year to do what you want right.

 

598

01:21:06.330 –> 01:21:06.900

Okay.

 

599

01:21:08.070 –> 01:21:09.270

TCF Coaches: No that’s a question, yes or.

 

600

01:21:09.270 –> 01:21:09.810

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: No yeah.

 

601

01:21:10.200 –> 01:21:12.090

TCF Coaches: Okay, so where you going to get that money from.

 

602

01:21:13.440 –> 01:21:14.160

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Where this is.

 

603

01:21:15.270 –> 01:21:18.600

TCF Coaches: OK, but you just made negative last year.

 

604

01:21:19.440 –> 01:21:22.290

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Well, this year is completely turned around so.

 

605

01:21:23.700 –> 01:21:28.650

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: And i’m going to say, thanks to this group, because if it wasn’t for this group, I know I wouldn’t be where i’m at right now so.

 

606

01:21:29.490 –> 01:21:36.660

TCF Coaches: So that’s 450 now you’re telling me you you live like you need 180 just to live to live your lifestyle that true.

 

607

01:21:37.620 –> 01:21:42.960

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Well that’s where I want to be that’s not where i’m at right now that’s where that’s where i’m shooting for Steve.

 

608

01:21:43.530 –> 01:21:45.450

TCF Coaches: So where’s that where’s that money coming from.

 

609

01:21:46.860 –> 01:21:47.700

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: My business.

 

610

01:21:47.970 –> 01:21:52.980

TCF Coaches: Okay, so you take the 180 plus the 450 mama that’s a 630.

 

611

01:21:53.310 –> 01:21:53.850

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Okay.

 

612

01:21:54.300 –> 01:21:55.590

TCF Coaches: You got to get in front of business.

 

613

01:21:56.040 –> 01:22:03.090

TCF Coaches: Right, so your business better spit out in profit net profit 630,000 bucks so you can realize your dreams.

 

614

01:22:03.570 –> 01:22:10.680

TCF Coaches: Right that’s it so it can all come from the business but it’s got to be a net profit of 630,000.

 

615

01:22:10.980 –> 01:22:11.340

Okay.

 

616

01:22:12.420 –> 01:22:14.220

TCF Coaches: Is that doable yes.

 

617

01:22:14.340 –> 01:22:19.770

TCF Coaches: That is still okay there Connie is your silver lining.

 

618

01:22:21.780 –> 01:22:36.210

TCF Coaches: There it is possible, you understand that the most liberating day of my life was just the plan that got put together for me 20 years ago by a financial planner and says, if you do this this this and this.

 

619

01:22:37.050 –> 01:22:44.520

TCF Coaches: This is your life and it shows me a graph you know that one way i’m like Oh, I can do that.

 

620

01:22:45.120 –> 01:22:58.680

TCF Coaches: I just got a short for 20 years in work, but I got the business, I can generate the cash it’s a well run business, I can do that now the second most liberating day it was 17 years later, when I got to actually check the money box.

 

621

01:23:00.120 –> 01:23:12.270

TCF Coaches: But that would see wasn’t the money that excited me it was like he gave me hope that excited me I just fulfilled the promise by showing up every day in my business.

 

622

01:23:13.290 –> 01:23:16.830

TCF Coaches: And the shift has happened, and the second, that happened.

 

623

01:23:18.000 –> 01:23:25.320

TCF Coaches: there’s he didn’t even know it, but tom’s in my air gun that was so last year okay you check that box off now what.

 

624

01:23:27.510 –> 01:23:30.510

TCF Coaches: And this is why you need to hang out with the top of the world.

 

625

01:23:32.040 –> 01:23:36.930

TCF Coaches: So, every time you think your King shit they go that was great, but now what.

 

626

01:23:39.690 –> 01:23:49.590

TCF Coaches: kind of you can do this, you know it, you see it it’s in your business now you know your numbers now you’re not blind all you have to do a show up at work and put in the effort every day okay.

 

627

01:23:50.730 –> 01:23:57.300

TCF Coaches: And remember, if you ever quit this group kami you will start sliding backwards and all your dreams will fall apart.

 

628

01:23:59.310 –> 01:23:59.940

TCF Coaches: Well, we do.

 

629

01:24:02.250 –> 01:24:03.900

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: Not quitting the group again.

 

630

01:24:05.040 –> 01:24:05.370

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: drink.

 

631

01:24:05.850 –> 01:24:06.570

TCF Coaches: Raw is that.

 

632

01:24:06.810 –> 01:24:08.910

TCF Coaches: Is that makes sense, or that did I confuse you.

 

633

01:24:09.180 –> 01:24:13.500

Connie w/Valley Remodeling: know it made perfect sense, and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it Thank you.

 

634

01:24:15.240 –> 01:24:16.290

TCF Coaches: i’m going to do a little.

 

635

01:24:17.910 –> 01:24:28.320

TCF Coaches: tiny little thing here i’m typing into my computer you guys, so you know Steve you got your $50,000 challenge right, so if somebody took 50,000 bucks.

 

636

01:24:29.010 –> 01:24:46.410

TCF Coaches: Let me just put it in here one more zero there we go and annually you put in 50,000 bucks i’m, this is just a general investment calculator Steve what do we got as an annual rate of return average what have you seen seven to 8%.

 

637

01:24:46.950 –> 01:24:47.700

TCF Coaches: were at.

 

638

01:24:48.450 –> 01:24:50.310

TCF Coaches: Just let’s talk a Roth IRA.

 

639

01:24:51.420 –> 01:24:57.360

TCF Coaches: Well, if you just put it in the s&p 500 for the last hundred years it’s averaged 10.3%.

 

640

01:24:58.140 –> 01:25:01.890

TCF Coaches: Alright, so i’ll go 9% just to be safe okay.

 

641

01:25:02.970 –> 01:25:11.520

TCF Coaches: And oops come on nine, why is it not, you know why it’s not because it’s technology and technology hates me.

 

642

01:25:14.520 –> 01:25:16.650

TCF Coaches: No, we can’t do that come on go back.

 

643

01:25:18.090 –> 01:25:19.350

TCF Coaches: Here hold on.

 

644

01:25:20.460 –> 01:25:26.520

TCF Coaches: I wasn’t ready for this all right here we go 50 grand 50 annual rate of return.

 

645

01:25:30.120 –> 01:25:41.670

TCF Coaches: Look at a 9% and guys if you just take 15 years right, so you got 15 years left to work all right that’s 2 million bucks right there.

 

646

01:25:42.990 –> 01:25:53.250

TCF Coaches: Just on that all right, so, and this is why we have professionals that help us with this stuff and like I said before, we’re not you know working out all the.

 

647

01:25:54.750 –> 01:25:58.980

TCF Coaches: compound interest and where you’re going to put it, and all this other stuff but guys, the point is.

 

648

01:25:59.460 –> 01:26:07.890

TCF Coaches: This stuff compounds quickly, maybe you do it in real estate, maybe you do in the stock market, whatever it is guys you got to get oxygen, this is about paying yourself first.

 

649

01:26:08.790 –> 01:26:15.720

TCF Coaches: You know why are you busting your ass and going through the shit you go through as a business owner if you’re only going to pay yourself 100 grand a year, and nothing else.

 

650

01:26:17.010 –> 01:26:18.720

TCF Coaches: Right so.

 

651

01:26:21.780 –> 01:26:35.910

TCF Coaches: I mean shit man, I know people that have lived they live modestly and that’s cool and they but they still pay themselves a shit ton of money and they bank it every year, and they invested every year, and what I typed in is I don’t know if you guys saw it, but I typed in there at the bottom.

 

652

01:26:37.410 –> 01:26:48.660

TCF Coaches: As Stephen county we’re talking i’m sitting there going if we’re not making the case for at least a 50% gross profit and every damn project we ever do or better than I don’t know what’s going to make the case for that.

 

653

01:26:49.710 –> 01:27:01.290

TCF Coaches: Right guys, because your business is an amazing tool for you to reach your goals financially all right that’s why you got to focus on the money that’s why Steve what’s your number one rule.

 

654

01:27:01.980 –> 01:27:03.090

TCF Coaches: don’t Fuck with the money.

 

655

01:27:03.390 –> 01:27:04.380

TCF Coaches: don’t Fuck with the money.

 

656

01:27:05.490 –> 01:27:12.840

TCF Coaches: Alright cuz tell you what you, you know anyway just you got to be disciplined about this stuff.

 

657

01:27:13.320 –> 01:27:16.470

TCF Coaches: Let me, let me wrap it up with real lifetime you ready for this.

 

658

01:27:16.740 –> 01:27:17.370

TCF Coaches: sure.

 

659

01:27:17.730 –> 01:27:21.480

TCF Coaches: I want to see how many people are still left on this call I gotta give you credit, though.

 

660

01:27:22.260 –> 01:27:26.250

TCF Coaches: 38 right that’s okay you guys deserve this story.

 

661

01:27:29.760 –> 01:27:33.900

TCF Coaches: I have a brother in law, who has now has pancreatic cancer.

 

662

01:27:35.160 –> 01:27:39.480

TCF Coaches: I also have a brother who runs a halfway house.

 

663

01:27:40.680 –> 01:27:51.870

TCF Coaches: He was a painter my brother in law was also a contractor developer both of them are sitting at 65 years old ish my age and they got nothing, nothing.

 

664

01:27:53.250 –> 01:27:53.700

TCF Coaches: So.

 

665

01:27:55.230 –> 01:27:57.630

TCF Coaches: my brother in law that he can’t even buy food.

 

666

01:27:59.190 –> 01:28:04.470

TCF Coaches: Like he can’t even buy food So what do you do you sit there and just let him.

 

667

01:28:05.910 –> 01:28:23.700

TCF Coaches: And I have to look around, I don’t want to be sensitive to my wife, but he is owes me hundreds of thousands of dollars through the years and had never paid me back, but I don’t give a shit about any of that he has a year to live basically.

 

668

01:28:24.840 –> 01:28:34.590

TCF Coaches: And he does he’s a great human being and he deserves to go out like he wants to go out and i’m going to make that should happen my brother, on the other hand.

 

669

01:28:35.610 –> 01:28:38.220

TCF Coaches: he’s got health issues he’s got nothing either.

 

670

01:28:39.330 –> 01:28:44.850

TCF Coaches: he’s that proverbial contractor that grew up and just never did the right damn thing and he’s got nothing.

 

671

01:28:46.110 –> 01:28:59.310

TCF Coaches: So he he does happen to have a real charity that that you know runs his halfway house that he does and i’m just been shoving them off 50 shares of apple stock 50 shares of apple stock.

 

672

01:29:00.060 –> 01:29:08.880

TCF Coaches: Because I can I just give it to him and every time I do it it’s whatever 810 thousand bucks a pop every time I do that but that’s what he lives on.

 

673

01:29:09.900 –> 01:29:13.110

TCF Coaches: So you you be in a position, one day.

 

674

01:29:14.190 –> 01:29:35.130

TCF Coaches: that the money that you make is going to seriously change the end of life for people on this planet it’s going to happen to you if you’re near my age you’ve seen it before, this is not a bullshit thing, do you want to be that person that’s able to help those that you love or not.

 

675

01:29:36.750 –> 01:29:38.400

TCF Coaches: And let me ask even a bigger question.

 

676

01:29:39.750 –> 01:29:42.660

TCF Coaches: Would you like to even have that choice.

 

677

01:29:45.600 –> 01:29:54.570

TCF Coaches: Because if you don’t get it together and put a bunch of money in the bank, not for you, but for everybody else you’ll never even have that choice.

 

678

01:29:56.850 –> 01:30:03.870

TCF Coaches: This group that we’re in it’s got nothing to do with business and everything to do with business.

 

679

01:30:05.130 –> 01:30:12.930

TCF Coaches: It is all it is is setting a foundation, so you can end up to be the person that you’re supposed to be.

 

680

01:30:14.730 –> 01:30:15.300

TCF Coaches: that’s it.

 

681

01:30:16.950 –> 01:30:19.290

TCF Coaches: i’m living what i’m teaching.

 

682

01:30:21.090 –> 01:30:26.520

TCF Coaches: But didn’t read a book didn’t read a motivational poster didn’t go to Grad school don’t have an MBA.

 

683

01:30:27.750 –> 01:30:36.240

TCF Coaches: i’m just living my life right from my heart and i’m so grateful i’m so thankful that.

 

684

01:30:37.380 –> 01:30:38.040

TCF Coaches: Because of.

 

685

01:30:39.750 –> 01:30:50.850

TCF Coaches: My ability to run a business but also my ability to hang with Tom for eight years, so now, I get the opportunity to affect thousands of other people.

 

686

01:30:51.660 –> 01:31:01.470

TCF Coaches: So they can all wake up and be what ED my left says on your dying day and you go to heaven or hell wherever you end up going and you meet yourself.

 

687

01:31:02.850 –> 01:31:10.800

TCF Coaches: You hope the person that you potentially should have become and the person that you are on your your death day or the same person.

 

688

01:31:12.510 –> 01:31:12.930

TCF Coaches: Right.

 

689

01:31:16.050 –> 01:31:21.180

TCF Coaches: What you do today matters what you do today sets the foundation for your future.

 

690

01:31:23.610 –> 01:31:24.300

TCF Coaches: Your call.

 

691

01:31:32.130 –> 01:31:37.470

TCF Coaches: guys everyday matters okay you gotta win you got to win the day right and to win the day.

 

692

01:31:38.370 –> 01:31:49.320

TCF Coaches: Like you can’t win the years can’t win the monster, and all that shit if you don’t win today, and you don’t win today without winning the moments Okay, the moments of some of you have a sales call later today.

 

693

01:31:50.580 –> 01:32:03.930

TCF Coaches: Okay, are you going to stand your ground and your pricing, are you going to price it properly, are you going to let fear slap you around and insecurity, because everything matters every yes stack the small button you got it.

 

694

01:32:05.010 –> 01:32:12.810

TCF Coaches: The moments through the day, this is why we have a pre job meeting Steve call them transfer the trust meeting on the job site, so that we would protect the money.

 

695

01:32:13.500 –> 01:32:23.220

TCF Coaches: Not because the money is the most important thing that you guys how many of you posted in the thing earlier, the percentage of your profit problems that were caused by money that were money related.

 

696

01:32:24.270 –> 01:32:29.280

TCF Coaches: wouldn’t it be nice to have some problems that you just go just write a check will fix it we’re good.

 

697

01:32:30.600 –> 01:32:42.090

TCF Coaches: Okay, and it doesn’t change your quality of life, it, I mean what if you had your top guy right now, who had had to go out like shit I see I don’t even know you know that some of you do I did, but I broke my foot yesterday.

 

698

01:32:42.570 –> 01:32:54.210

TCF Coaches: Working out i’m in a fucking boot right now, so what if your top guy in your company broke his foot couldn’t work on the job for the next six weeks wouldn’t it be nice to be able to cut his ass a check.

 

699

01:32:55.860 –> 01:32:57.270

TCF Coaches: And just go I got you.

 

700

01:32:59.250 –> 01:33:14.100

TCF Coaches: Okay talk about leadership talk about loyalty guys have money I i’m hitting this hard, because so many of us have this money message going on in our head that keeps beating the shit out of US okay.

 

701

01:33:16.050 –> 01:33:22.170

TCF Coaches: keeps beating the shit out of us that we’re not worth this we can’t get this the remarkable never go for it it’s not the going rate.

 

702

01:33:24.030 –> 01:33:35.310

TCF Coaches: Okay, so it’s not just you retiring and buying a boat or whatever the hell, you want to do with your money and your career and your retirement and this net it’s about what Steve just said, the ability to be able to give to people.

 

703

01:33:36.000 –> 01:33:44.340

TCF Coaches: All right, it’s you know i’m fortunate enough to be in the same position as well, like i’m taking care of extended family members right now.

 

704

01:33:45.360 –> 01:33:49.650

TCF Coaches: and not one bit of me is upset about i’m like Fuck yeah This is why I work my ass off.

 

705

01:33:51.780 –> 01:33:57.900

TCF Coaches: Right this This is why this is why i’m fucking alpha, this is why i’m the beast, this is why i’m an elite motherfucker.

 

706

01:33:58.200 –> 01:34:12.030

TCF Coaches: so that I can care for the people that I care about so I can have their backs and meet their needs in their darkest moments, because I fucking love them and I know that’s the heart of most of you guys all of you guys I guarantee it’s all of you guys.

 

707

01:34:13.050 –> 01:34:21.720

TCF Coaches: But you don’t get there, if you don’t win the moments so when you don’t feel like writing a blog or shooting a video get off your fucking ass and do it.

 

708

01:34:23.190 –> 01:34:32.970

TCF Coaches: You know, when you start second guessing yourself on the pricing, I want you to think of the Steve story about how he’s got these two men in his life that are having a hard time and he’s able to help.

 

709

01:34:34.710 –> 01:34:42.570

TCF Coaches: Okay, when you’re tempted to blow off a role play or not schedule a role play or follow the process in the sales process.

 

710

01:34:43.050 –> 01:34:48.990

TCF Coaches: You think about this moment think about that moment how you want to be you want when somebody reaches out says, can you help me.

 

711

01:34:49.440 –> 01:34:58.740

TCF Coaches: or when you recognize the need you just want to proactively go hey man i’m helping you, I just wanted, I just want to help you out here think of that moment how shitty it’s going to feel when you can’t give to them.

 

712

01:35:00.930 –> 01:35:08.910

TCF Coaches: Because you ratios, the ratio says he has a change order for 26,000 bucks and you don’t have the balls to give it to the customer.

 

713

01:35:10.650 –> 01:35:11.430

TCF Coaches: mauricio.

 

714

01:35:12.600 –> 01:35:21.420

TCF Coaches: When you get the end of life and your spouse brother, whoever is about the die, and they need a $26,000 operation to save their life.

 

715

01:35:24.000 –> 01:35:25.290

TCF Coaches: Think back at this moment.

 

716

01:35:28.200 –> 01:35:32.190

TCF Coaches: it’s your money you deserved it go get it.

 

717

01:35:33.240 –> 01:35:34.560

TCF Coaches: is not about balls.

 

718

01:35:35.700 –> 01:35:46.110

TCF Coaches: it’s about right and wrong, and you have the choice you want to have in the future, because you know what this is a perfect example the choice you’re making the day is going to affect that future.

 

719

01:35:47.640 –> 01:35:50.130

TCF Coaches: And not making a choice is making a big choice.

 

720

01:35:51.930 –> 01:36:01.500

TCF Coaches: And dude you know what i’m if i’m you i’m getting off this call, I am i’m posting in the group I need a brown belt or above to role play this with me and then he role play and then he picked the phone up and fucking call the customer.

 

721

01:36:03.270 –> 01:36:03.900

TCF Coaches: When the moment.

 

722

01:36:05.280 –> 01:36:10.380

TCF Coaches: Because you thinking about i’ll tell you what you’re looking at your phone you guys know i’m talking about if you’re looking at your phone on the desk.

 

723

01:36:10.710 –> 01:36:21.540

TCF Coaches: And every second that you don’t pick the phone up when you know you should the phone gets bigger and bigger like a fucking cartoon now it’s as big as your House and there’s no way you’re so scared of it now you can’t pick it up.

 

724

01:36:22.920 –> 01:36:32.760

TCF Coaches: So attack it practice role play it with somebody who’s a brown or above worsley fucking head trash and immediately with that momentum dial the customer.

 

725

01:36:36.000 –> 01:36:38.520

TCF Coaches: You guys magic and there’s magic in this group.

 

726

01:36:38.730 –> 01:36:39.480

TCF Coaches: You just got to.

 

727

01:36:39.660 –> 01:36:41.340

TCF Coaches: Get out of your own way and let it happen.

 

728

01:36:41.580 –> 01:36:42.510

TCF Coaches: And you deserve it.

 

729

01:36:45.240 –> 01:36:49.260

TCF Coaches: And and that’s a hot button for me Murray sale, because I remember one of the things that.

 

730

01:36:49.560 –> 01:37:06.090

TCF Coaches: That collapse, to me, financially was there were a few projects that I had with these big builders, I was afraid to lose the builder and I had 70 $80,000 with the change orders on this one this few projects that we had that they weren’t going to pay me on.

 

731

01:37:08.010 –> 01:37:20.490

TCF Coaches: All right, because I screwed the pooch and didn’t dot.my i’s and cross all my t’s so there was no way I was going to get it all and long story short, I got zero because I didn’t go to fucking bat for it.

 

732

01:37:22.020 –> 01:37:23.640

TCF Coaches: I was being too nice of a guy.

 

733

01:37:24.810 –> 01:37:26.460

TCF Coaches: I didn’t want to make waves.

 

734

01:37:27.510 –> 01:37:31.320

TCF Coaches: When they agreed to the work and it hurt very, very badly.

 

735

01:37:32.550 –> 01:37:36.240

TCF Coaches: Okay, so and I know we can all think of a situation like that.

 

736

01:37:38.190 –> 01:37:41.640

TCF Coaches: Okay, so role play you got this.

 

737

01:37:45.810 –> 01:37:51.510

TCF Coaches: yeah I mean I did you know Steve this topic today could have been more timely, especially at the money stuff at the end here for me.

 

738

01:37:52.110 –> 01:38:05.700

TCF Coaches: Because i’m just i’m getting barraged with phone calls and messages and conversations with people that are in my circle and my family and this and that that that needs shit and it’s a great reminder like this is why we fight for what we do.

 

739

01:38:07.140 –> 01:38:09.570

TCF Coaches: This is why we show up consistently every day.

 

740

01:38:11.670 –> 01:38:16.110

TCF Coaches: Okay, so remember success doesn’t give a shit how you feel you guys.

 

741

01:38:18.120 –> 01:38:27.150

TCF Coaches: It does not care that you broke your foot a guy quit you’re terrified to talk money and send a change order for 26 grand over it doesn’t care.

 

742

01:38:29.160 –> 01:38:39.210

TCF Coaches: Back to that whole thing sitting at the table in a wobbly chair, with a broken leg on the Chair, you are not secure at the table of success sorry, none of us are.

 

743

01:38:40.350 –> 01:38:47.070

TCF Coaches: that’s why you got to win the fucking moments every day so share your biggest takeaway in the group you guys Facebook group Steve anything else.

 

744

01:38:48.150 –> 01:38:58.170

TCF Coaches: Only that either you’re going to you know live your life according to your plan or someone else’s you get to decide, and I hope today, today you decide to live your plan.

 

745

01:38:59.610 –> 01:39:08.880

TCF Coaches: Because he had a what ain’t nobody coming to save you know cavalry at the end baby, you are your own calorie so hop to it and have a fantastic week.

 

746

01:39:09.630 –> 01:39:10.530

TCF Coaches: appreciate you guys.



Sales Dojo 03-23-2022

Sales Dojo 03-23-2022

Join Derek as he walks through the Shin-Fu with 1-2 prospects of his prospects

1

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TCF Coaches: what’s up.

 

2

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TCF Coaches: How are you guys.

 

3

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TCF Coaches: glad you guys are joining me it’s good to be back on this call, I have missed it.

 

4

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TCF Coaches: And I hope some you guys had missed it as well.

 

5

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TCF Coaches: No good boys has loves this shit.

 

6

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TCF Coaches: Come on unmute jocelyn hear your voice man and talk to you forever.

 

7

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Joshua Gadbois : hey Derek.

 

8

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TCF Coaches: yeah he is.

 

9

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Joshua Gadbois : A man everybody.

 

10

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Joshua Gadbois : Know what’s going on.

 

11

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TCF Coaches: Are you at such a shop you on a job, what is this.

 

12

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Joshua Gadbois : I know this is.

 

13

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Joshua Gadbois : This is a soon, a room that needs to be renovated let’s put it that way.

 

14

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Joshua Gadbois : So i’m downstairs in my house so only place I get away from my three and five year old so.

 

15

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Joshua Gadbois : yeah.

 

16

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TCF Coaches: I have.

 

17

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TCF Coaches: I have about four hiding spots.

 

18

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yeah.

 

19

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Joshua Gadbois : So it works out the screaming is just slightly muted so just you know.

 

20

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TCF Coaches: Are they chained up or something.

 

21

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Joshua Gadbois : I mean they are all stays you know.

 

22

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TCF Coaches: I was.

 

23

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Joshua Gadbois : You know.

 

24

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Joshua Gadbois : I they had a master throw it down.

 

25

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TCF Coaches: So be cool well you know we’ll we’ll see how it works out I.

 

26

00:03:04.650 –> 00:03:05.940

TCF Coaches: Actually didn’t realized.

 

27

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TCF Coaches: When Lindsay was putting this call scheduling it again for me and putting it in there, I personally screwed up the eastern and.

 

28

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TCF Coaches: Central time so i’m reaching out to the two people that i’m going to share food fortunately one said yes, you can actually do the call earlier because that scheduled in for an hour later so i’m checking with the other person, so the good good news is we do have some live.

 

29

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TCF Coaches: prospects to talk to you Oh, and one of them is sending me pictures right now so that’s good.

 

30

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TCF Coaches: And you guys just bear with me for a minute, now that way we allow a few more people to jump on here to before we get started.

 

31

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TCF Coaches: I don’t have any slides setup and i’ve kind of went back and forth what we’re doing because it’s happened so fast.

 

32

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TCF Coaches: Is i’ll get some slides prepared you guys had been on here before.

 

33

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TCF Coaches: You know I use the words worth repeating, so I just need to get those branded so but it’s all in the battle ground now so it’s amazing how many moving parts have to happen to make these presentations you know look consistent so today we’re just gonna hang out like this, no big deal.

 

34

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TCF Coaches: riff a little bit and then.

 

35

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TCF Coaches: And by.

 

36

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TCF Coaches: i’ll make the first call.

 

37

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TCF Coaches: To a prospect which is actually two hours away from me, but it’s a swim pond is what she’s interested in, and the reason I wanted to push her into here.

 

38

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TCF Coaches: She just reached out this morning is, these are such complex projects, the price in what people consider a recreation pond.

 

39

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TCF Coaches: swim pond, if you will, sometimes a little small backyard bonds and they just consider it that way, and then others could be a million dollar plus project.

 

40

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TCF Coaches: So that’s going to be the fun part really going through this and seeing where she’s at and sharing a ridiculous price tag so there’ll be some some.

 

41

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TCF Coaches: Some education happening, but I could be completely wrong and you guys have been on this call before it’s I don’t mind read this stuff I just kind of go What could it be because.

 

42

00:05:09.060 –> 00:05:17.640

TCF Coaches: This could be there’s other guys in my industry that are doing 2 million plus dollar dollar projects on these water features so who knows it could be that.

 

43

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TCF Coaches: I will say this, I don’t like the big projects i’m just wrapping up the one it was like it.

 

44

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TCF Coaches: they’re just so long, so you guys do renovations and you’re on stuff for just I mean a month or longer I don’t know how you do it.

 

45

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TCF Coaches: it’s a it’s the spreadsheet that I have to keep up for that job, like the amount of time just in the spreadsheet is ridiculous.

 

46

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TCF Coaches: I like these little 1234 week long jobs it’s less less effort on the keyboard like you get in and get out so, but you know what.

 

47

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TCF Coaches: I like money, so in this would be one that i’d obviously be seven out so we’re just gonna have fun with that conversation and see where it goes so with That being said, if you guys happen to have any questions in the chat box.

 

48

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TCF Coaches: just give me just a minute, since I have to find that other email and see if the other gentleman would be available.

 

49

00:06:06.180 –> 00:06:16.530

TCF Coaches: Because I actually scheduled him, which is going to be on Dan bennett’s 200 throw play point after this call, so I have to make an adjustment here on the flat so.

 

50

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TCF Coaches: hang out amongst yourselves for a second, and let me find that gentlemen.

 

51

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TCF Coaches: let’s see.

 

52

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TCF Coaches: And what i’ve done for both of these prospects is i’ve assignment so to them, they have.

 

53

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TCF Coaches: My Facebook page they have all the socials I send them project profiles and pricing, so they already know, and I feel.

 

54

00:06:44.520 –> 00:06:58.320

TCF Coaches: The way I set this up as the now I think it’s going to be the second call that we’re going to have is it should just be a slam dunk softball because he’s he knows exactly what things cost, so the fact that he’s getting on this call with me, we should just be.

 

55

00:07:00.180 –> 00:07:07.110

TCF Coaches: Confirming details, I think, the one thing that might run into i’m pushing July, right now, and that may turn somebody off just.

 

56

00:07:08.190 –> 00:07:09.270

TCF Coaches: They may not want to wait till July.

 

57

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TCF Coaches: see where is that.

 

58

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TCF Coaches: Here we go.

 

59

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TCF Coaches: it’s Ryan, so let me text him really quickly.

 

60

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TCF Coaches: So the way i’m going to respond to this is i’ve used it several times and i’m just being completely candid and honest with them and i’m saying, I have a schedule conflict today at 215.

 

61

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TCF Coaches: I have an opportunity to get with you sooner, are you available at and i’ll say 12 i’ll say one o’clock in this can be tight.

 

62

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TCF Coaches: looks like 1245.

 

63

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TCF Coaches: Because I don’t want to push down no fans stand on here by chance.

 

64

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Daniel Bennett: cool oh yeah so.

 

65

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TCF Coaches: There you are at the bottom screen so Dan if by chance we’re on this call, and it goes a little bit long we’ll roll right into your call you okay with that if we go a little long.

 

66

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Daniel Bennett: If it happened oh yeah whatever it takes man appreciate it.

 

67

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TCF Coaches: I mean if you have, if you have a hard stop I get it.

 

68

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TCF Coaches: let’s see, let me see if this works.

 

69

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To 15.

 

70

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TCF Coaches: This is real life, I mean this is just what we do right gotta just go through it.

 

71

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TCF Coaches: Almost done that.

 

72

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TCF Coaches: that’s it, let me scroll through the text here, is there any Chad has any questions in here let’s see all the way back hellos lows excellent.

 

73

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TCF Coaches: it’d be interesting to Erin was on here and to be interesting if either of these two people have reached out to you.

 

74

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TCF Coaches: want i’m glad to hear dude.

 

75

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TCF Coaches: it’ll be fun man.

 

76

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let’s see.

 

77

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TCF Coaches: appreciate that Bernardo.

 

78

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TCF Coaches: basement so does anybody have any questions related to sales any because we got pretty much.

 

79

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TCF Coaches: guess what how cool the other dude said he’d be fine as well, so we will have both of those calls today so very accommodating individuals appreciate that.

 

80

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TCF Coaches: and feel free to unmute let’s let’s just kind of have fun with this just open forum any questions anything relative how’s everybody doing.

 

81

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Nate Burket: I got a quick question.

 

82

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TCF Coaches: What yeah.

 

83

00:10:15.060 –> 00:10:21.030

Nate Burket: This one’s this come up recently, and now that i’ve kind of started to feel like i’m.

 

84

00:10:24.450 –> 00:10:32.160

Nate Burket: A little more on top of my shit really just making sure i’m crossing t’s and dotting i’s and thinking more thorough about how to be transparent.

 

85

00:10:34.350 –> 00:10:35.490

Nate Burket: I feel like i’m.

 

86

00:10:36.660 –> 00:10:41.520

Nate Burket: pushing a little harder, maybe a little more aggressive than other contractors for sure.

 

87

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Nate Burket: How do you gauge that so like give an example, right now, i’ve got a client that asked me, for you know you know full bathroom renovation, we went through the consultation.

 

88

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Nate Burket: And he’s just kind of got cold feet, I can tell it’s it’s a matter of that and there’s a lot of other shit going on in his life right now.

 

89

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Nate Burket: That I wasn’t aware of, but I know a lot of his employees and they’ve told me that there’s just this stuff that’s in the way of him, making good decisions right now.

 

90

00:11:07.500 –> 00:11:13.950

Nate Burket: How much space, do you put in between that and what do you do to just not overwhelm them or pressure them into the next step.

 

91

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TCF Coaches: I find a lot of power in just asking someone how they want to be, you know.

 

92

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TCF Coaches: communicated with how they want to be dealt with like in you kind of set that up it’s I don’t want to come off pressuring you I don’t want to just constantly have to track you down how would you like to proceed with this, how would you like me as the contractor.

 

93

00:11:36.630 –> 00:11:41.340

TCF Coaches: to handle the situation and then really give them the opportunity to tell you.

 

94

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TCF Coaches: How they want to be dealt with.

 

95

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TCF Coaches: Because if they’re saying that it’s looking like they’re getting cold feet, it could be so many things.

 

96

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Nate Burket: Right it.

 

97

00:11:51.600 –> 00:12:00.300

TCF Coaches: It could be you the contractor, it could be you the pricing, but it could be so many other things to maybe they really are in that that vicious decision making loop.

 

98

00:12:00.960 –> 00:12:10.020

TCF Coaches: That is that is so hard so if you come to us tactical empathy and put yourself in their shoes and look what it is from the consumer to do operate with a contractor it’s overwhelming.

 

99

00:12:12.300 –> 00:12:21.060

TCF Coaches: Like we know how we operate, and we have our process, especially you guys been here you’ve tightened up your game so much right but at one point your game was pretty loose.

 

100

00:12:21.720 –> 00:12:36.480

TCF Coaches: And, and then, what do you think of the homeowner it and i’m gonna pick on allison and because allison you’re young lady you probably haven’t hired many contractors so for you to go out and hire a contractor you start that thing it’s it’s a lot.

 

101

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TCF Coaches: Where do I start, what do I do what’s this going to look like.

 

102

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TCF Coaches: And then you know some of us, you know older savvy cats like like rob rob you probably hired contractors and had stuff not around your place and you kind of understand what that’s like so.

 

103

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TCF Coaches: When people are not ready to make a decision, I truly go I just wonder where they’re at you know I use the phrase you know what stage of the decision making process, you currently in.

 

104

00:13:03.090 –> 00:13:12.450

TCF Coaches: And you walk with him through that you’re kind of like a Sherpa us a steward to the experience, because we think of contractors of our experience on how we.

 

105

00:13:12.960 –> 00:13:21.510

TCF Coaches: We communicate with the customer, as the project’s going along and just all the the the project stuff, but you have to think about what it’s like even before.

 

106

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TCF Coaches: and help and so simple questions like do you have any questions for me to what this looks like you know what is it.

 

107

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TCF Coaches: And this is where have you worked with other contractors in the past, this is like a very, very valid one like we use that sometimes it’s just a Shin foo point, but when you can really get into it, where they’re in a space and and just answer those questions for him.

 

108

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TCF Coaches: And, have you asked him if he said, you know it seems like you have cold feet, do you mind sharing with me what that’s feels like.

 

109

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TCF Coaches: Maybe.

 

110

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Nate Burket: I did.

 

111

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TCF Coaches: The same.

 

112

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Nate Burket: yeah so The response was hey you know, this is a big decision i’m trying to justify where the cost of this is when you gave me your formal estimate it didn’t really break things down detailed enough for me to look at the numbers.

 

113

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Nate Burket: On top of that i’ve got all this extra stuff going on in my mind i’m really busy, and my time is spread thin so.

 

114

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Nate Burket: You know I just need some time and at that point, I said, not a problem you know, is there any way that I could make it more convenient for you to see, would you like, for me to be able to provide you.

 

115

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Nate Burket: Maybe more information about specifically what we’re doing and the details that we’re going to put into this, the steam shower the commodities and such.

 

116

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Nate Burket: And he said, you know that’s actually a good question I don’t know enough about any of this stuff.

 

117

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Nate Burket: Do you have do you have details like can you give me a printout of the brand name, and this, you know specifics.

 

118

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Nate Burket: And I said, you know, the better i’ll put an entire stack together, so I did I dropped it off at his house and left it at that and I still feel like there’s cold feet, I know the price is more than what he was thinking it was going to be.

 

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Nate Burket: he’s good for the money, I know that whether or not he justifies it worth in his home that’s the question The other thing I did, that was a little beyond what I normally would do was.

 

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Nate Burket: sent him some cost versus value configurations to determine how much it should cost for the type of investment that he’s making plus in the area of town that he lives, so he hasn’t really given me any feedback on what that information is done for his decision, he was supposed to.

 

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Nate Burket: Really free up time Monday, a talk and.

 

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Nate Burket: That didn’t happen so here we are, Wednesday and i’m thinking what’s my next step have I have I been available for you enough or you know, are you still needing some more time kind of thing.

 

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TCF Coaches: I mean you could you could go to hell Maria a hail Mary approach you know what the email, have you given up on the project.

 

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TCF Coaches: Or, because here here’s what’s happening to his name if we don’t do the hail Mary style we’re going to do something like i’m here if you need me just checking in just circling back.

 

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TCF Coaches: The normal things that we do.

 

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Nate Burket: I can’t stand the circle back email.

 

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TCF Coaches: Oh, and it’s it so if you really want to find out.

 

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TCF Coaches: Just shoot that to them in the subject line, have you given up, I mean and if there’s you can go farther to hey should I.

 

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TCF Coaches: Should I put you in my stack over here of just you know, maybe they’ll call me back or, should I put you in a stack over here that I should look at penciling penciling you in somewhere.

 

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TCF Coaches: And that way you can move on, because you’re obviously spending some time on it.

 

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Nate Burket: I have, and now it comes down to this, I owe some response back because I have tentatively carve time out.

 

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Nate Burket: I know some response back to my tile guy because it’s it’s on his schedule too.

 

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Nate Burket: I was from response back to my DEMO crew so there’s a lot of obviously people who have rallied up for this that now need need to know what’s going on and.

 

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Nate Burket: i’ve given him at sea at this point, since the initial timeframe and we submitted our proposal to them.

 

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Nate Burket: it’s been a week and a half now if you’re going to spend this kind of money on a project like this you’re probably going to be pretty excited about it you’re going to move forward, I don’t get the.

 

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Nate Burket: I don’t get the feeling that he’s as excited as he was originally now that he sees the number and we’ve been shopping, to see what things cost so at this point.

 

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Nate Burket: He knows he’s invested in me, but he doesn’t really he’s almost willing to lose that small investment to just probably not move forward and I need to put some heat on somehow like you saying throw the hail Mary.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah at least because you need the yes or no, at this point.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah you need you need to find out, and I had a similar scenario where through one of my vendors turned me on to another vendor and they needed this water wall put in.

 

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TCF Coaches: And man, they were pushing hardcore to get it done and it’s like you know it’s I met with them, and I did not do a consulting fee, because it was a referral.

 

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TCF Coaches: And if it’s a referral from the right vendor that I know I don’t charge for consulting because I trust that you know i’ve pretty much have the job and.

 

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TCF Coaches: met with them and went through the thing and there they need to move forward fast, and I said hey i’m gonna have to secure some material and it’s going to be difficult for me to get this.

 

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TCF Coaches: And let me see what I can do and he’s like cool and the the actual project manager showed up while we’re out there and we talk numbers, while we’re out there and I said this is basically going to be.

 

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TCF Coaches: Between 25 and 30 grand and he said, make it 25 and how’s it so you’re saying like i’m getting the verbal for me right now 25 the number and, if I can do it at 25 we’re good so you’re telling me to go ahead and order, the material.

 

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TCF Coaches: he’s like yep we’re good on this and I made the phone call to my vendor and he said yeah they’re good for it no worries.

 

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TCF Coaches: didn’t work out that way.

 

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TCF Coaches: I secured the material.

 

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TCF Coaches: and reach back out to them and I kept kind of getting kicked back, I was like hey it’s I just need you to basically it’s going to be a week longer than I anticipated, but I did get the stuff we can make this happen.

 

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TCF Coaches: And reached out another time he said, let me check with my project manager and at that point that’s when.

 

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TCF Coaches: Should I just gave up on this and he’s like no no we’re good and then I checked in is like Okay, I have all the materials are ready to move forward radio silence.

 

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TCF Coaches: radio silence and then I literally said hey one more hail Mary because I can’t hold this body anymore and i’m going to have to use this material on another job I need you to give me a yes or no, and he said i’m sorry they actually scrapped that project.

 

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TCF Coaches: hmm so.

 

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Nate Burket: And he knew about that.

 

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TCF Coaches: I don’t know i’m not sure, because the way this whole thing’s going I think he was really getting information, as I was asking because it’s a huge it’s a whole development being built.

 

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TCF Coaches: Huge thing in downtown nashville and i’m a little $25,000 portion of it, so I feel like he was just waiting to find out from.

 

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TCF Coaches: He was on a need to know basis kind of scenario he probably wasn’t calling every day going hey is jv I coming in here.

 

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TCF Coaches: So he was embarrassed and it’s I mean he he sent me a nice email after that just totally embarrassed and sorry that happened, but if I didn’t say.

 

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TCF Coaches: line in the sand, you know you’re gonna lose your spot, and I do, I have this material that I can use it on on the job, thank goodness, because it’s not a normal thing that we do.

 

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TCF Coaches: Well it’s a normal thing that we do with the materials hardly ever available just where the manufacturer did them school thanks these water walls that are cool.

 

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TCF Coaches: And you know, but he confirmed it, and now I can go the other customer, because otherwise, then i’m like you’re saying you’re just holding people in just a holding pattern and that sucks so at some point, you do have to go shit or get off the pot.

 

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Nate Burket: And that’s that’s I mean I think i’ve.

 

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Nate Burket: understood I just don’t want to be too aggressive and really what it comes down to I think now that i’m spinning out here is that.

 

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Nate Burket: The hail Marys are certainly the neck that the necessary pressure that have to to evolve in this case i’ve given them one the last one was a text message Good afternoon, are you still open, that we can come together on transforming your bathroom or have I lost your trust.

 

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Nate Burket: And he fired right back immediately hey sorry i’m working 16 hour days the mortgage industry is crazy right now and i’ve lost two massive clients so we’ve been slammed trying to cover our deals.

 

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Nate Burket: And then that was it but it’s like now and then, since then, there was the email, I sent the email was just updating the.

 

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Nate Burket: The online proposal because it expired, I put a date on there to expire, and it expired, so I just said, I messaged hey.

 

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Nate Burket: I refresh this for you there’s nothing changed just want to make sure that it’s available for you to look at, are there any questions, I can answer it this time.

 

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Nate Burket: And that was it, but I mean even josh that’s a great comment josh hey look, I do have two places I like to follow all of our our leads.

 

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Nate Burket: You know, just so that we’re not dropping the ball on you and I totally respect it if right now is not the right time frame for you.

 

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Nate Burket: or you’re still doing some information gathering, you know, should I put an additional couple weeks or so on on our follow up or are we are we thinking this isn’t going to be a deal right now I mean that’s awesome that that helps a lot right there that’s.

 

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TCF Coaches: that’s a little wordy for me.

 

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TCF Coaches: accountable right have you given up on this job.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah it’s very eloquently put josh.

 

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TCF Coaches: You gotta be careful with that too josh because it’s I mean you’re it’s it’s you just gotta say it.

 

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TCF Coaches: Because people there’s no it’s it’s it’s The fact of you hear me say it all the time you tell the person the truth, they know how to feel you don’t.

 

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TCF Coaches: They make up stories in their head so i’m not saying it’s not being truthful but if it gets a little nebulous and there’s some other stuff in there it’s given them an out so either you do, or you don’t and there’s nothing wrong with saying, have you given up on this project.

 

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Nate Burket: I know I put the pressure on them when the responses that I was getting back where I don’t call it excuse itis but I mean.

 

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Nate Burket: We all kind of know when you’ve hit the right button because usually there’s sort of tone inflection in response.

 

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Nate Burket: And the 16 hour days, right now, he hasn’t had a chance to dig into it too many urgent priorities in front of him, nothing more than that.

 

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Nate Burket: So he said, and then the next comment was sorry my daughter wrecked my rafter and she had to go get stitches and the cars in the shop so there’s that so.

 

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Nate Burket: i’m like look i’m respectful of the fact you got a lot going on, I get it what’s next in yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: it’s so when’s the last time emailed them.

 

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Nate Burket: So the last conversation I had with him was last one buys house let’s see Tuesday and dropped off basically a nice formal color printed presentation of the.

 

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Nate Burket: fixtures and finishes that you selected it ferguson’s the three dimensional renderings printed out in more of a floor plan and then he wanted some actual like.

 

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Nate Burket: He wanted some printouts of the steam system that we’re going to install.

 

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TCF Coaches: So now your your challenge, while we’re on the call is to just send them the email, and the text and the subject line, have you given up on this project.

 

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TCF Coaches: Do you think answers, while we’re on the call I bet he does.

 

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Nate Burket: Right now handled.

 

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TCF Coaches: let’s do yeah, let me just move on.

 

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Nate Burket: Oh wait let’s see my last text message yeah refresh link this was Sunday, when he was texting me while I was driving he wanted me to he had six hours in the car and wanted me to send them some new information so have you given up on this project question mark.

 

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Nate Burket: and

 

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TCF Coaches: then respond they always do these respond really fast.

 

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TCF Coaches: Which is pretty awesome well cool, let me see if I can jump on this call with.

 

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TCF Coaches: let’s see I believe her name is Jen so make sure everybody knows me now, thank you make sure everybody’s muted.

 

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TCF Coaches: So that I don’t have to so for you individuals that may not have been on this call, and my state in Tennessee.

 

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TCF Coaches: You can record someone without them, knowing in Tennessee you can other states, you cannot two people have to consent here only one person has to consent and that’s me so it’s totally legal what i’m doing.

 

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TCF Coaches: I don’t have one of those fancy things, and you know your call is being recorded for quality.

 

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TCF Coaches: Whatever I should do that, though, let me pretty fun.

 

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TCF Coaches: All right, let me see, is this the one that’s Ryan, so let me see Jen.

 

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TCF Coaches: got the attachments I need to.

 

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TCF Coaches: or Susan OK, I will screw that up.

 

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TCF Coaches: Jen was another call today Okay, I want to make sure I got all my ducks in a row here.

 

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TCF Coaches: Let me do this, so we can look at the pictures together i’m going to share the screen.

 

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My text.

 

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TCF Coaches: Maintenance brochures, we just came up with.

 

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TCF Coaches: one.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah see this.

 

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TCF Coaches: cool.

 

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TCF Coaches: So this is her backyard so let’s call Susan see what happens.

 

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TCF Coaches: Yes, you’re filming.

 

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TCF Coaches: This this isn’t hey Susan it’s Derek jbs secret gardens, how are you i’m good, how are you i’m doing fantastic Thank you so much for.

 

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TCF Coaches: jumping through hoops and getting on a phone call with me to hear about your project, I really appreciate that yeah absolutely, thank you for calling me so quickly.

 

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TCF Coaches: appreciate you getting back to me thank you no worries, thank you for sending the photos over to and I literally have those right in front of me so let’s just jump into it just tell me what you’d like me to know and i’m just going to listen.

 

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TCF Coaches: Sure Okay, I recently bought this property i’m in calvert city Kentucky which is pretty close to paducah if you’re familiar at all i’m not sure.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m like yours, a little bit more west of you here in nashville I think yeah you’re kind of like clarksville i’ve come up like clarksville that way to get to you exactly I am i’m two hours from the national airport like pretty much on the dial so.

 

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TCF Coaches: But anyway, I am looking my backyard.

 

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TCF Coaches: Not very pretty there’s a lot of happiness and i’m in all i’d like to i’d like to put something back there that i’m I would I love swimming and like to enjoy you know, I was thinking about putting.

 

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TCF Coaches: In ground Poland, but then I thought you know I really like the concept of these.

 

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TCF Coaches: These natural pools, because I think they’re also nice water features for when the weather’s a little colder it’s it’s just nice to have in the garden, you know.

 

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TCF Coaches: So that’s that’s pretty much it, you know I want to, I want to beautify my backyard and and make it more of a recreational space um I do have a dog, so I do want to leave some you know area for him to run around but um.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah that’s that’s my goal that’s that’s it Susan i’m going to say you don’t sound like you’re from Kentucky I am not.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m actually from Chicago.

 

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TCF Coaches: Southern Illinois University, which is in carbondale Illinois so very close to shawnee anyway that’s how I ended up in the area, I always liked it when I was younger that it was.

 

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TCF Coaches: little calmer down here than it is in Chicago and what was bringing you down here when you were when you were younger.

 

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TCF Coaches: school and I have an aunt that lives in dyers Tennessee here yeah so I some family out that way and.

 

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TCF Coaches: I don’t know it’s just it’s more relaxing down here and i’m i’m getting older and I just want you know, a nice space myself in well my sister she stays with me, sometimes but it’s mostly me and my dog so.

 

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TCF Coaches: But yeah i’m down here now and i’d like to just make this place kind of my sanctuary sanctuary that’s awesome yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: Well, so how did you even discover this whole recreation pond world because I saw it come through what we call the aqua escape lead generator and that came that came to me so was that was that the point of reference.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m guessing that they probably like the cookies on my my searches on my computer my my own I work in it.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah but i’m what i’m getting is that i’ve been doing, you know random haphazard searches and then I got an ad on Facebook, actually, for I think it was the aqua escape.

 

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TCF Coaches: And I put my information, and then they didn’t have anybody local but they said they’d reach out to someone who may do work, you know.

 

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TCF Coaches: In this area, yes, oh yeah let’s wait we do travel for for certain jobs for sure Okay, and did you get the video that I sent to you did an amazing excellent.

 

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TCF Coaches: It looked like it had the cost $100,000 though I don’t know I mean I i’m i’m not sure I mean that’s why I want to talk to somebody I don’t know first of all, what kind of budget i’m looking at for something like this, I know, in my research, I have found that.

 

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TCF Coaches: The natural pools over the life of having a natural pool it’s less costly than having you know chlorinated pool because.

 

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TCF Coaches: It it doesn’t require as much maintenance at least that’s what most people are saying so that’s the truth there’s there’s not it’s a it’s a natural ecosystem, there is.

 

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TCF Coaches: There is a little bit of love you have to give to it, but nowhere near what you do with the chlorinated pool it’s a it’s a it’s a lot so.

 

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TCF Coaches: Well, you know you did mention that you felt like that one had to be at least 100,000 would you like me to share what that actual project ended up costing yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: You sound nervous, I am very nervous about it because i’m i’m i’m hoping you don’t dash my dreams right now.

 

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TCF Coaches: Now i’m nervous.

 

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TCF Coaches: I almost wanted, can I just text you the price and not say it out loud yeah.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah it’s not appreciate you you hear me this is fun.

 

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TCF Coaches: Are you ready, are you sitting down I am that one was 185.

 

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TCF Coaches: Oh, my gosh oh wow okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah that’s about the price of this House.

 

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TCF Coaches: And how how big was that.

 

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TCF Coaches: That is 23 by 43 by six foot deep.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay, that sounds lovely.

 

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TCF Coaches: And it had some and that the actual price of the pond itself was right around 130 OK, and then there was a lot of add ons in the patio lighting landscaping.

 

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TCF Coaches: There was a short wall that we built, so there was some other things that added to that so base price you’re you’re around 125 135 ish give or take just for the pond itself.

 

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TCF Coaches: And you have you have financing or something like that we do.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay, what what’s your what’s your financing structure look like her monthly payments on something like that um.

 

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TCF Coaches: hang on, let me give me just a second, and I will see.

 

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TCF Coaches: I have to pull up one of my.

 

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TCF Coaches: brochures, can I can get real close to what it would actually be okay bear with me for just a minute yeah, of course.

 

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TCF Coaches: That would be.

 

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TCF Coaches: right around 800 a month.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: And that we do require 50% down and then the remaining would be financed out.

 

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TCF Coaches: And you know interest rate varies a little bit so that’s why i’m just kind of saying around 800 because I don’t know the exact number without digging into it yeah no i’m sure that depends on term plus rate and all that good stuff so.

 

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TCF Coaches: Well, that is way outside of my budget for sure okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: Maybe maybe I could get something in here for like.

 

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TCF Coaches: shifty 40 or 50 but.

 

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TCF Coaches: I think, not that I necessarily have the exact.

 

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TCF Coaches: setup that they have but I guess i’m gonna go for that, like something that.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know.

 

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TCF Coaches: That includes so you said it was about 131 yeah yeah and with that I would actually have to.

 

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TCF Coaches: dig in a little bit too because material cost have changed because that project that I sent was about four years old, so i’m sure there’s some some fluctuations in there, too, but I mean with so.

 

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TCF Coaches: What size were you hoping to to get I mean that was 23 by 43 by six I mean what were you hoping for, I guess, I I don’t know I don’t know that much about oh I man i’m a city or i’m trying to educate myself i’m.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know something that I could do some laughs and.

 

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TCF Coaches: I mean 23 you said 2343 But OK, and then that’s actually the way they wanted this one set up that that particular client.

 

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TCF Coaches: grew up in the catskills and that they’d love to swim and that was kind of we made more of a channel style out of it being that.

 

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TCF Coaches: is usually like we do 43 we’re probably doing like a 43 by 38 or something like that, so we made this one narrow so that it could be more of a channel to swim in.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

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TCF Coaches: Well, I mean.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m looking for guidance on the whole process, you know what I want to make sure that I can afford it obviously and then to I just i’m just looking for somebody who knows this.

 

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TCF Coaches: I, this is not my, this is not my area of expertise, by any means.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know so.

 

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TCF Coaches: I mean a 40 to $50,000 budgets, a good budget.

 

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TCF Coaches: Is it yeah yeah I mean we can build a lot of stuff at that price point so my next question would be that the term recreation pond is pretty.

 

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TCF Coaches: Pretty wide Okay, and how we build these things, and the filtration system and how we approach, it is how much human interaction will happen and we have to build these a certain way if there’s.

 

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TCF Coaches: Four or five people in this thing constantly you know if there’s there’s pets in this thing constantly.

 

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TCF Coaches: We have to adjust the filtration for that, but if you’re going to use it more as just hanging out on a flow getting in there, doing a few laps and it’s mostly just you.

 

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TCF Coaches: We can downsize the filtration considerably because we don’t have to to, but the lack of a better term hot rod this thing, like the one we’re on currently.

 

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TCF Coaches: With actually we just finished it and it’s a monster, but they plan to have 15 2030 people in it all summer long right, so all right that’s it that’s a different different animal so with That being said, how do you plan to use this and how often I know you said laughs but I mean.

 

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TCF Coaches: Detailed out from the.

 

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TCF Coaches: tribe I love swimming and my dog hates water, so he won’t be in it so it’s really just you it’s pretty much just me, I mean, I do have visitors, though, and I will have family over sometime.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m not I don’t I don’t anticipate having that many people all summer long what you’ve just described, but I may have visitors over occasion on me and i’m sure we make use of it, you know.

 

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TCF Coaches: I would be the one in it most often and I would like to use it daily in the one month, you know yeah no fishing plants, important to you.

 

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TCF Coaches: They are you okay yeah perfect that’s good that that helps that’s a positive.

 

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TCF Coaches: It Susan you have a good budget and and we don’t have to do it, so can I don’t want to nerd out on this and it’s I can but i’ll go really nerdy So please, please join.

 

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TCF Coaches: me.

 

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TCF Coaches: I want to protect your time as well, but it, so we have two different types of filtration and there’s a bio falls filtration and then there’s wetland filtration.

 

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TCF Coaches: They both do the same thing it’s kind of like having a window unit keeps you cool in your House right so window unit school versus having a huge six time air conditioning system to cool the whole House.

 

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TCF Coaches: They both work right.

 

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TCF Coaches: right we don’t have to put the 610 unit if it’s just going to be you and some friends every now and again.

 

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TCF Coaches: We can we can do the smaller filtration which is appropriate for the size gallons and we figure all that out that’ll be pristine crystal clear all time at all times Okay, so that saves.

 

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TCF Coaches: josh on a certain like the filtration system that we have it to this one at 130 was probably about 50 grand.

 

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TCF Coaches: wow just just filter just and filter because it’s just a whole thing it’s just more stuff it’s basically in that application it’s like putting a pond on the side of a pond.

 

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TCF Coaches: Right well that the wetland yeah yeah that’s that’s an easy now the West wetland filtration why they work so well and lily pop literally polishes the water so.

 

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TCF Coaches: We scale these based on usage so for tree recreation it’ll be 30% of the actual gallons of water filtration so we had 30% on to it.

 

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TCF Coaches: which can be pretty big deal, and then we we dig a pit down three feet, we put down three different gradients of rock we go from softball sized baseball sized to.

 

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TCF Coaches: marvel size and what that does is the workflow filtration pushes the water up polishes the water as it gets to the top and slows down and drops any suspended material down into the basin.

 

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TCF Coaches: And it’s just teeming with life with unbelievable beneficial bacteria just going NUTS literally eating nitrogen nitrates nitrates, just like consuming every nutrient policies, water and dumps it back in.

 

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TCF Coaches: A regular bio falls for this does the same thing it’s just on a much smaller scale.

 

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TCF Coaches: So it’s way less expensive totally effective just way less expensive, the maintenance is really actually the maintenance is probably easier because you could do it yourself versus having us come up there, and do it.

 

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TCF Coaches: So, and your maintenance of just water features really going to be about 10 minutes a month oh wow that’s incredible yeah it’s not it’s fun it’s not like.

 

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TCF Coaches: you’re not out there, like dumping chlorine in this thing you’re you’re you’re interacting with the pond cutting some aquatic plants back feeding your fish cleaning the skimmer basket out, you know it’s kind of gratifying is kind of weird take a bath.

 

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TCF Coaches: Very.

 

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TCF Coaches: Good and you’re so so you do have a good budget.

 

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TCF Coaches: And it can work, we just need to dial in size, so if I was to go in, we would be looking at something like let me see here.

 

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TCF Coaches: it’s going to look at some of my packages.

 

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TCF Coaches: You would be falling in.

 

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TCF Coaches: When we consider like one of our paradise packages.

 

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TCF Coaches: Which is is a it’s 35 grand, but we do need to do a few other enhancements to get you there, which would get you to the 40 $50 40 or $50,000 point yeah sure I actually wanted to ask you to I don’t know.

 

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TCF Coaches: utility all in my yard and everything seems to be above ground but i’m sure you guys get the clearance from the.

 

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TCF Coaches: utilities and all that stuff to to did as well don’t you I mean this isn’t part of that process sure I don’t know what’s in my yard really yeah which.

 

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TCF Coaches: I don’t know what it’s called in Kentucky but in nashville it’s called one call where you just call the service and they come out mark all utilities.

 

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TCF Coaches: So I would I would assume there’s something similar for you guys up there and they mark all that stuff that’s part of our you know.

 

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TCF Coaches: Our pre job process to make sure everything’s marked and because you know there’s gas lines utility lines water lines and I don’t want to hit any of that stuff know for sure for sure.

 

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TCF Coaches: yeah, and so the next package stepping up would be like our 20 by 25 and that’s 68 grand So what we can do is kind of find something that kind of in the middle.

 

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TCF Coaches: And into work within within that budget but that’s a that’s a really let’s just say if it’s 20 by 20 or or 18 by 24 I mean that’s still a big space yeah that’s a huge thing essentially great I mean, I think that would be.

 

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TCF Coaches: Three feet deep 30 inches you know 3034 inches deep be can swim in that.

 

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TCF Coaches: We can go deeper, but the deeper we go, it does drive the calls, because for every foot, I mean it’s it’s you’re adding you know another portion of the pond is more lighter more rocks more things more filtration so if we’re mindful of the deck.

 

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TCF Coaches: And you know put some little seat stones in there, so, even if you know, three feet, you can sit a little rock and water hits you right at your shoulders.

 

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and

 

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TCF Coaches: that’s what’s fun about these we can we, you know we use a flexible liner so we’re not pouring concrete or anything we can manipulate and create and.

 

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TCF Coaches: We make a nice little you know fish K, for your fish, so they can hide from any predators.

 

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TCF Coaches: Give them a little spot and we get the aquatic plants and the other blooming and you’re hanging out in there’s something about the sitting in that water at eye level and looking across at Lotus and lilies.

 

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TCF Coaches: And dragon flies I mean it’s just it’s otherworldly yeah no, I know I mean it’s it’s very it’s it’s relaxing I mean I like I like lake swimming too so yeah I think i’m.

 

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TCF Coaches: going to ask you you’re talking about predators what is, and you tell me if i’m taking up too much your time.

 

334

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TCF Coaches: I was just wondering I don’t think mosquitoes are an issue because of the circulating water yes that’s what I right yeah and then no problem, do you think snakes ever.

 

335

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TCF Coaches: I can’t lie I can’t lie.

 

336

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TCF Coaches: It is it is real but here’s the other than you got a dog.

 

337

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TCF Coaches: You cut your grass yeah snakes aren’t trying to hang out most spaces.

 

338

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TCF Coaches: yeah they want to, they want coverage yeah yeah I mean will they come I can’t say no it’s very rare I mean so i’ve had water features, the better part of my adult life and every pond i’ve had yes i’ve seen a snake at some point.

 

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TCF Coaches: But they’re usually gardeners and they’re they’re really like they come over maybe get a drink and they only want to be there it’s like this is a bad idea.

 

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TCF Coaches: you’re not going to have your water snakes are not going to happen up you know not they’re not going to find it so it’s it’s really a.

 

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TCF Coaches: Its nature, you know.

 

342

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TCF Coaches: yeah I mean.

 

343

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TCF Coaches: i’m not actually afraid of snakes, but I just don’t want to have happen is.

 

344

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TCF Coaches: You know somebody bite my dog get any kind of like I don’t think i’d get like water moccasins over here I don’t think they get that far away from.

 

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TCF Coaches: There yeah I don’t know i’d have to look into but i’m not it’s not attracted him it’s not it’s not like you put it now what will happen when you put it in his frogs are going to find it turtles are going to find it they find it snakes not so much that’s amazing yeah.

 

346

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TCF Coaches: I love that.

 

347

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TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

348

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TCF Coaches: Do you need to think about this a little bit you just want to kind of do a little more research, what would you would you like to do next, I would like to.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m going to look at that.

 

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TCF Coaches: You said it’s the paradise package, yes i’m going to have a look at your website.

 

351

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TCF Coaches: I.

 

352

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TCF Coaches: I am pretty close to pulling the trigger and then what would be next for you do I hire you to come out to do, like to have a look at the.

 

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TCF Coaches: Space itself or I mean there’s there more consulting involved part for my phone call and i’m guessing timing, would be the next question is how soon, are you hoping to have this done oh i’m not in a rush, I really am that, I mean i’d like to.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know I have it tomorrow, if I could but i’m not there’s no pressure um.

 

355

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TCF Coaches: You know, maybe the next three to six months good no good because it’s we’re realistically, so this is how how I work and i’ve had several consultations this week phone consultations.

 

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TCF Coaches: And I have the rest of the week scheduled as well, and how to respect to everyone, whoever gives me deposit first gets put on the schedule.

 

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TCF Coaches: So right now we’re into July, probably touching August by the end of the week.

 

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TCF Coaches: And I do have a phone call that I need to make that I feel like they’re going to take all the month of August, so that puts us into September realistically and.

 

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TCF Coaches: You know, unfortunately, you won’t be able to enjoy it through the summer, but.

 

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TCF Coaches: they’re fantastic and that’s the other benefit of doing this, and I think you already understand, that is, this is a four season thing versus a swimming pool where it’s only Nice in the summer and this you get to enjoy all season so really I mean if you’re okay with that that timeline.

 

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TCF Coaches: We can schedule another call to dig in and look at that the packages that we have and let’s just really start cranking it down.

 

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TCF Coaches: And I think it could probably cuz this is really just an information gathering call you know and usually what I find is you’ll have more questions after we get off the phone that you just didn’t realize you had while we’re on the phone.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m a consultant, by not back.

 

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TCF Coaches: I know you started i’ll go to bed tonight, I will be like Oh, you know I wake up and i’ll have about three question, so why don’t we do this.

 

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TCF Coaches: Is because you know budget was crazy, but now I feel like we’re you know, in the same same ballpark, so this is positive timeline sounding good.

 

366

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TCF Coaches: let’s let’s give this a couple days, let you do a little digging and let’s just go and schedule another phone call.

 

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TCF Coaches: That way we’ll kind of let this marinate a little bit and then we’ll just kind of move from there, how about that I love that I like it yeah perfect, let me open up my calendar and see today is Wednesday.

 

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TCF Coaches: We could.

 

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TCF Coaches: Have about 10 o’clock on Friday.

 

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TCF Coaches: 10 o’clock on I alright let’s see.

 

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TCF Coaches: I have a long standing client call.

 

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TCF Coaches: I have 1030 I have 1130 and then I have, I am wide open.

 

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TCF Coaches: 1:30pm until you know the rest of the evening so let’s let’s do 1030 and if it’s you know if you need a little more time if it’s 1045 however i’ll just 1030 because it’s i’ve got a i’ve got an obligation to have to be 12 so 1030 would work well to.

 

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TCF Coaches: Well, I will just move our time to there and i’ll send you do I have your email address.

 

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TCF Coaches: I think I put it in on the on but i’m happy to give it to you, let me, let me kind of the form really quickly and just pull that up.

 

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TCF Coaches: Because I can just copy and paste them.

 

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TCF Coaches: i’m looking the wrong spot, let me go back to that.

 

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TCF Coaches: yep I got it right here susie Bishop 23 at gmail COM.

 

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TCF Coaches: Okay i’ll put a calendar invite together for 1030 this Friday and we’ll just jump back on a call and take it from there okay sounds good, Derek Thank you so much for getting back to me, I appreciate it you bet awesome Susan Thank you okay take it away.

 

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TCF Coaches: alright.

 

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TCF Coaches: awesome so my feel free to unmute.

 

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TCF Coaches: While we’re 4321 I need to put this in the calendar.

 

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Joshua Gadbois : deck I just want to make one comment and i’ll shut out um I was impressed that you didn’t ask for the sale.

 

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Joshua Gadbois : I think a.

 

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Joshua Gadbois : lot of times I get a customer just going hey which way, should we go and you had the.

 

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Joshua Gadbois : You know in you know intuition to say hey let’s let’s keep the conversation going, but I think a little bit more That was really cool that’s going to be big takeaway for me so.

 

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TCF Coaches: I appreciate that, and it was because I mean.

 

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TCF Coaches: What i’m couple of things.

 

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TCF Coaches: As a salesperson in my business i’m growing as well and I need to think about whether I want this job or not.

 

390

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TCF Coaches: So it’s not just her, I want to give her time I want her to really I mean because dude we went from 180 down to 40.

 

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TCF Coaches: So.

 

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TCF Coaches: I had to look at my my pricing brochure to see where that would land and what that would be, but now I need to pull in this is two hours away from me.

 

393

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TCF Coaches: Am I going to serve this job out how’s my team gonna feel about driving up there.

 

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TCF Coaches: They don’t really care to do that, I think it’s kind of fun I like to go, we get fun hotel, you know we build this just for a few days, I don’t want to do it for weeks, but it’s a little it’s a little getaway.

 

395

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TCF Coaches: But my team doesn’t always like that, so this is really a equal playing field, I want to make sure that.

 

396

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TCF Coaches: We want to do this and yeah really I mean 18 but, really, as you know, it’s a lot of people aren’t available right now.

 

397

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TCF Coaches: I mean unless stuffed up half of them for four months this winter and they got behind on some of the work they needed so and everybody’s so busy.

 

398

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TCF Coaches: This is, I, but this is a smaller job, so I might be able to pull inside it there’s a lot of things so.

 

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TCF Coaches: Basically josh what i’m doing to and bind myself a little bit of time and i’ve shared it.

 

400

00:53:30.960 –> 00:53:40.020

TCF Coaches: Before my leads are just now starting to go crazy, I want to pick the cherries man, I want to pick the best things coming along to help my team out.

 

401

00:53:40.410 –> 00:53:48.210

TCF Coaches: Last year in the last two years because of code, when I was just booking like crazy and there’s so many jobs that I took on that i’ve really wished I didn’t get.

 

402

00:53:50.220 –> 00:53:54.360

TCF Coaches: And wasn’t necessarily because I might have been hard jobs they just weren’t fun jobs.

 

403

00:53:55.080 –> 00:54:03.930

TCF Coaches: and other jobs were coming down the Pike that were like so easy and so fun and like perfect site conditions because that’s big for it, of course, all of us right it’s.

 

404

00:54:04.530 –> 00:54:14.820

TCF Coaches: amazing when logistics and like you can pull right up to a space and like it’s there’s no hill to climb, you know just to get your gear up there, like all the things so i’m.

 

405

00:54:15.840 –> 00:54:23.580

TCF Coaches: I want to make sure we’re, not even to April, yet if I showed you on my calendar, I mean it’s like I have like four calls every day.

 

406

00:54:24.960 –> 00:54:36.690

TCF Coaches: Sometimes, more than that, and so two parts, I want her to really think about this is that budget she has real I don’t want to do the financing, I don’t like the financing part.

 

407

00:54:37.920 –> 00:54:47.520

TCF Coaches: i’d rather not deal with i’d rather you know pay me let’s do that because, if I go through synchrony financing they get a percentage the customer has to pay a percentage, and it pushes the job down.

 

408

00:54:49.050 –> 00:54:49.560

TCF Coaches: So.

 

409

00:54:50.640 –> 00:54:50.940

TCF Coaches: yeah.

 

410

00:54:53.340 –> 00:54:53.640

Rodney Pags: I gotta.

 

411

00:54:54.690 –> 00:54:55.140

TCF Coaches: Go for it.

 

412

00:54:56.160 –> 00:55:01.380

Rodney Pags: How would you handle this if you decide you don’t want to move forward if she’s not an ideal client.

 

413

00:55:04.350 –> 00:55:08.250

TCF Coaches: The things that will keep me from moving forward will be the price of travel.

 

414

00:55:09.510 –> 00:55:20.520

TCF Coaches: Because i’m looking at this picture, this is this is pretty sweet like as wide open space that’s great like that’s that’s an easy not easy, but we have room to move about like that.

 

415

00:55:21.600 –> 00:55:30.000

TCF Coaches: The things are going to turn it off is what’s it gonna cost me an overhead what’s the reality of that travel time and how’s my team to feel about it, and my team says no.

 

416

00:55:30.510 –> 00:55:35.730

TCF Coaches: i’ll share that with her say hey Susan you know put this together i’m excited about it, but I got to be completely honest with you my team’s not.

 

417

00:55:37.410 –> 00:55:38.070

TCF Coaches: sucks.

 

418

00:55:39.480 –> 00:55:39.840

TCF Coaches: Oh.

 

419

00:55:40.950 –> 00:55:49.110

TCF Coaches: And there’s nobody else around her they can do this that’s in our world that we know of i’m in our CAC program if you will.

 

420

00:55:50.910 –> 00:55:57.690

TCF Coaches: there’s a couple of guys in Kentucky but they’re just as far of ways, as I am and couple of them don’t even do these so.

 

421

00:55:58.890 –> 00:56:10.620

TCF Coaches: Could I bring in a couple of CA sees maybe but it’s probably gonna be a winner thing so i’ll just tell her dude i’ll just be completely just kind and it’s hey I thought about this.

 

422

00:56:11.880 –> 00:56:19.470

TCF Coaches: This really doesn’t make sense, I mean we have done one down the street from her in Kentucky it’s about an hour and a half away.

 

423

00:56:20.670 –> 00:56:23.580

TCF Coaches: And I did it was alive, I did a couple years ago and.

 

424

00:56:23.970 –> 00:56:33.600

TCF Coaches: It was a normally an $8,000 water feature and I told him I was like this is an $8,000 water feature but i’m gonna have to charge you 12,000 to come up there you go with it, and he said I can’t get anybody else Come on, and i’m like shit.

 

425

00:56:35.370 –> 00:56:41.160

TCF Coaches: I didn’t think he’d say yes, so i’m just gonna think this out thoroughly and I want her to think it out thoroughly.

 

426

00:56:42.210 –> 00:56:42.510

TCF Coaches: and

 

427

00:56:43.620 –> 00:56:49.680

TCF Coaches: If she says, for your 50 it’s she’s got 6070 it’s all there always is.

 

428

00:56:51.300 –> 00:56:55.530

TCF Coaches: And and here’s something, because of the the recreation pond that we just wrapped up on.

 

429

00:56:56.820 –> 00:57:00.840

TCF Coaches: I had a conversation with the contractor and I wish I wouldn’t went even deeper because.

 

430

00:57:01.200 –> 00:57:08.220

TCF Coaches: Nobody could have predicted that the winners ever all of us every town every city every state, we all had a gnarly winter like we haven’t ever had.

 

431

00:57:08.940 –> 00:57:21.510

TCF Coaches: Like it was crazy this winter and it added, and if the customer did some add on so where i’m going with this pretty much every conversation when I get to that deposit collection part is i’m going to say hey.

 

432

00:57:22.590 –> 00:57:27.990

TCF Coaches: This job is gonna be 50 grand but we’re probably going to run into some elements that I don’t even know about and I need to be.

 

433

00:57:28.470 –> 00:57:39.570

TCF Coaches: completely clear and candid with you and I want you to be candid with me and if this project goes over 20 30% are you okay with this thing going over budget does this thing need what does this number have to be the number.

 

434

00:57:40.650 –> 00:57:42.420

TCF Coaches: Because if it is I don’t know that I can commit to that.

 

435

00:57:44.070 –> 00:57:49.380

TCF Coaches: Because we might run into some stuff I need to know that you’re okay with me coming to you and going hey I didn’t see this coming.

 

436

00:57:50.820 –> 00:58:00.510

TCF Coaches: Because I don’t want to blindside you with it either, and if you got some room then let’s let’s let’s move forward to this, but if you don’t let’s do this don’t do this because, in my world and my.

 

437

00:58:02.100 –> 00:58:07.980

TCF Coaches: My space shit changes fast and i’m not even talking about materials like i’m not even talking about that part.

 

438

00:58:09.210 –> 00:58:18.420

TCF Coaches: Of the big project were gone we had so much rain in production got slowed so much because of the cold, I mean the machines were literally freezing to the ground.

 

439

00:58:20.700 –> 00:58:21.510

TCF Coaches: And I mean.

 

440

00:58:22.830 –> 00:58:29.520

TCF Coaches: it’s a couple hours to get a machine unstuck and then think of the morale of the team it’s like it’s a it’s a thing.

 

441

00:58:31.050 –> 00:58:31.590

TCF Coaches: So.

 

442

00:58:33.570 –> 00:58:35.490

TCF Coaches: Those are the things that I would share with her.

 

443

00:58:37.290 –> 00:58:40.680

TCF Coaches: Why, I may not be interested in doing this, if she was in nashville hell yeah.

 

444

00:58:41.760 –> 00:58:42.210

TCF Coaches: All day long.

 

445

00:58:44.340 –> 00:58:46.980

TCF Coaches: Just open communication, why not, who would have thought.

 

446

00:58:51.300 –> 00:58:51.750

TCF Coaches: Thanks.

 

447

00:58:51.870 –> 00:58:58.080

Rodney Pags: For that yeah yeah that was brilliant brilliant brilliantly, it was wonderful to listen to you.

 

448

00:58:59.700 –> 00:59:01.080

TCF Coaches: I appreciate that it’s a.

 

449

00:59:02.310 –> 00:59:10.590

TCF Coaches: he’s learned from failing a bunch you know it’s a case in point that’s the the the wall that we built on this job.

 

450

00:59:12.690 –> 00:59:24.390

TCF Coaches: It was going to be 118 to put the wall in and then, when it had to go to the engineer to get the engineer stamp then that’s a different world he has to go Okay, let me engineer this there was another 24,000 and gravel.

 

451

00:59:26.160 –> 00:59:30.840

TCF Coaches: I was like shit I just told the guy that this thing was going to cost 218 now I got to put in 24,000.

 

452

00:59:32.580 –> 00:59:35.160

TCF Coaches: And some change of gravel so.

 

453

00:59:36.840 –> 00:59:46.260

TCF Coaches: I didn’t even think about the fact that once it went to engineering things were going to change it’s not just the purchase in the Labor the wall there’s going to be other things, to make this thing appropriate because it’s a 16 foot tall wall.

 

454

00:59:47.760 –> 00:59:53.400

TCF Coaches: So add to make that phone call to hated that I know I just told you this price, but now i’m saying sorry dude.

 

455

00:59:53.820 –> 01:00:06.540

TCF Coaches: it’s gonna be an additional 24 grand justin gravel like nothing even cool this gravel just a bunch of dump trucks, not even sure you’re not even gonna see for 24,000 basically you’re burying $24,000 how cool is that.

 

456

01:00:09.420 –> 01:00:10.080

TCF Coaches: But he understood it.

 

457

01:00:13.530 –> 01:00:13.770

TCF Coaches: So.

 

458

01:00:17.820 –> 01:00:20.670

TCF Coaches: The video sent her is the.

 

459

01:00:22.860 –> 01:00:28.680

TCF Coaches: dream, recreation pond it’s one that Greg Woodstock did so it was an aqua escape, let me see.

 

460

01:00:31.380 –> 01:00:32.970

TCF Coaches: should be in our text.

 

461

01:00:36.600 –> 01:00:37.860

TCF Coaches: yeah if you see it, though.

 

462

01:00:40.470 –> 01:00:41.130

TCF Coaches: You see, that josh.

 

463

01:00:49.230 –> 01:00:57.810

TCF Coaches: Tennessee Homeowners if you’re still paying the power company for your home’s electricity every month there’s a brand new opportunity available in your area.

 

464

01:00:58.500 –> 01:01:05.250

TCF Coaches: I don’t know if you know who I am but i’m the pond police, so I come, and I kick pounds away for boys that haven’t been good, have you guys been good.

 

465

01:01:10.740 –> 01:01:14.370

TCF Coaches: you’re in nashville with Derek Johnson, and this.

 

466

01:01:15.450 –> 01:01:16.800

TCF Coaches: has got to be the biggest crowd you.

 

467

01:01:18.120 –> 01:01:19.800

TCF Coaches: know just fast forward to the cool stuff.

 

468

01:01:40.770 –> 01:01:48.540

TCF Coaches: Somebody that you’re thinking about doing a recreation pond it is more natural it looks nice here we can enjoy it all year round.

 

469

01:01:48.990 –> 01:01:57.150

TCF Coaches: Maybe one part of the year right and, especially, depending on I mean when you do these videos like I mean the customer testimonials happening in the video.

 

470

01:01:58.020 –> 01:02:05.760

TCF Coaches: like this is how powerful that the social proofing is and how powerful the assignment selling is and and why it’s so important that we create this stuff because.

 

471

01:02:06.570 –> 01:02:13.590

TCF Coaches: You guys are seeing this people aren’t just googling shit anymore their YouTube being for the same thing that they would Google for.

 

472

01:02:15.330 –> 01:02:25.800

TCF Coaches: it’s it’s the marketing that we were doing two years ago, is completely almost I can’t say it’s irrelevant, but seo is kind of a weird thing now still got to be in these things but it’s not like it was before.

 

473

01:02:26.550 –> 01:02:33.480

TCF Coaches: Like they need to find stuff like this if you’re looking for a recreation pond you want to hear from the customer and you want to see that, like.

 

474

01:02:36.390 –> 01:02:37.110

TCF Coaches: kids swimming in.

 

475

01:03:07.650 –> 01:03:08.610

TCF Coaches: So you guys get the idea.

 

476

01:03:11.730 –> 01:03:12.930

TCF Coaches: Do you guys have videos like this.

 

477

01:03:18.180 –> 01:03:32.700

TCF Coaches: So this I was fortunate, and we do have our own in House now I mean this was the one because Greg goes around, and that was his whole thing where he’s doing blogs, he goes and visits CA sees and he showcases their project, I mean how many of us like 33,000 views on this one.

 

478

01:03:34.500 –> 01:03:35.910

TCF Coaches: So i’m actually surprised it’s, not more.

 

479

01:03:37.380 –> 01:03:40.080

TCF Coaches: than you can see Greg has 220,000 subscribers.

 

480

01:03:41.550 –> 01:03:41.970

TCF Coaches: So.

 

481

01:03:43.920 –> 01:03:46.350

TCF Coaches: that’s a pretty big deal and 33,000 people seen this.

 

482

01:03:48.150 –> 01:03:52.080

TCF Coaches: And I use it and I have there’s a whole nother series here.

 

483

01:03:54.060 –> 01:03:59.700

TCF Coaches: Like water garden secrets that was another thing that he did so i’ve got another 12 minute video on that.

 

484

01:04:02.340 –> 01:04:03.480

TCF Coaches: here’s another.

 

485

01:04:08.610 –> 01:04:09.150

TCF Coaches: anyway.

 

486

01:04:11.160 –> 01:04:28.140

TCF Coaches: So everybody’s have to design and selling right that’s not is everybody here on this call, we go the chat box 44 people on here does everybody, I mean you, you are hip to this on at selling right, let me get some yeses and and if there’s some some nose in here, we need to.

 

487

01:04:29.310 –> 01:04:33.330

TCF Coaches: dig into that because it’s so unbelievably important.

 

488

01:04:40.470 –> 01:04:40.740

TCF Coaches: Good.

 

489

01:04:42.570 –> 01:04:52.470

TCF Coaches: yeah I mean if there’s some knows it’s totally cool that’s that’s something we can we can dig into we can do an open coaching call and we can just just on our Facebook group we can do you know ask me anything.

 

490

01:04:53.970 –> 01:04:57.030

TCF Coaches: So yeah ronnie absolutely we can we can dig into that.

 

491

01:05:00.660 –> 01:05:12.840

TCF Coaches: it’s ronnie The easiest way for you to understand the assignment selling how I do it is just research me socially research my company Facebook instagram YouTube.

 

492

01:05:13.920 –> 01:05:14.580

TCF Coaches: tick tock.

 

493

01:05:16.110 –> 01:05:16.620

TCF Coaches: and

 

494

01:05:18.840 –> 01:05:29.040

TCF Coaches: i’ve just hired our videographer she’s pretty much coming on full time now so she’s going to be shooting even more video exposing more things, not just the that it’s just all video because.

 

495

01:05:29.580 –> 01:05:44.460

TCF Coaches: i’ve got two applicants it’s I pushed into my social media hey make sure that you want to do this because these rocks are heavy and a lot of shit we do sucks it’s not may not be what you think it is so see the team see the whole thing so i’m just living my company wide open.

 

496

01:05:45.900 –> 01:05:52.140

TCF Coaches: and any customer that reaches out to me our new office manager and that’s it she’s got a lot she’s been.

 

497

01:05:53.580 –> 01:05:57.480

TCF Coaches: going through a lot of orientation with Aaron and just understanding the dynamics of the company so.

 

498

01:05:57.690 –> 01:06:06.270

TCF Coaches: Here, another month or so, when she goes through all of that it’s I get to hang out with her, and one of the things that should be doing for me any customer that reaches out any.

 

499

01:06:06.870 –> 01:06:11.700

TCF Coaches: Possible higher that reaches out will be pushed a little nice little package over social media.

 

500

01:06:12.210 –> 01:06:21.390

TCF Coaches: And there’ll be basic you know hey check this stuff out if it makes sense we haven’t came up with what we’re going to say exactly what is gonna be something along the lines check this shit out if it doesn’t make sense go away, you know.

 

501

01:06:22.050 –> 01:06:24.630

TCF Coaches: If it does make sense come on it’s.

 

502

01:06:24.990 –> 01:06:35.580

TCF Coaches: it’s our garden Center manager it pushed her through this when she filled out the application she’s like oh yeah I know you guys completely socially i’ve been into your shop multiple times I know you guys are, I want to work with you.

 

503

01:06:36.120 –> 01:06:48.420

TCF Coaches: And our garden Center our office manager she applied, because she it seen our stuff on instagram but she didn’t go any farther because she’s 26, I believe, and she lives that’s her instagram that’s her world.

 

504

01:06:48.870 –> 01:06:52.140

TCF Coaches: And, but she didn’t do the other thing, so you she didn’t know our videos.

 

505

01:06:52.980 –> 01:06:59.850

TCF Coaches: And she check that out with wow Okay, because she’s HR so she already knows the team.

 

506

01:07:00.210 –> 01:07:15.600

TCF Coaches: That she’s going to be involved in and helping them through you know HR related things like she knew who travis was and Jamie was and in Austin and Montana and john and and just go down the lines like she already knew who we were before she came, though.

 

507

01:07:18.870 –> 01:07:22.260

TCF Coaches: So that’s yeah that’s the end it’ll evolve from that.

 

508

01:07:23.400 –> 01:07:29.250

TCF Coaches: Like i’m starting to learn some other tweaks and other other movements to to promote this stuff.

 

509

01:07:30.330 –> 01:07:32.280

TCF Coaches: In the right way, so.

 

510

01:07:34.170 –> 01:07:35.490

TCF Coaches: that’s a long winded answer it but.

 

511

01:07:37.320 –> 01:07:42.180

TCF Coaches: it’s it’s really that simple like I don’t know how to probably said too much about it’s like.

 

512

01:07:44.040 –> 01:07:52.050

TCF Coaches: it’s I would be it’d be interesting to see how you guys are doing some assignment selling as well versus just what i’m doing, I mean I use my website and the socials I mean that’s the.

 

513

01:07:53.070 –> 01:08:01.140

TCF Coaches: that’s the thing and then pictures, I mean there is that too, I have, I have my pictures pretty well if you guys that were in mass Vegas and or.

 

514

01:08:02.040 –> 01:08:14.760

TCF Coaches: stillness Vegas when when Mike and let me Mike are on stage just going through he’s he’s really, really good at capturing and having things in his his phone to easily push to people and i’ve adopted even some of his techniques to make it super simple.

 

515

01:08:15.810 –> 01:08:16.530

TCF Coaches: and fast.

 

516

01:08:17.760 –> 01:08:18.090

Oh.

 

517

01:08:20.220 –> 01:08:22.860

TCF Coaches: yeah Marcus sheridan’s pretty pretty solid on that.

 

518

01:08:24.030 –> 01:08:25.080

TCF Coaches: They ask you answer thing.

 

519

01:08:27.630 –> 01:08:28.260

TCF Coaches: Like that’s perfect.

 

520

01:08:30.660 –> 01:08:37.410

TCF Coaches: Okay, let me do this real quick and then i’ll call the other Dan Dan we got into your time I don’t want to do that Rhea Dan.

 

521

01:08:42.210 –> 01:08:43.290

TCF Coaches: can’t see it there yeah.

 

522

01:08:43.710 –> 01:08:44.310

Daniel Bennett: i’m here.

 

523

01:08:49.230 –> 01:08:50.550

TCF Coaches: Let me call this one guy real quick.

 

524

01:08:51.450 –> 01:08:51.840

Daniel Bennett: yeah.

 

525

01:08:52.170 –> 01:08:59.280

TCF Coaches: And then we’ll just how we could even just stay on this call and do your 200 point I can just change the you guys can stay on here and see as 200 points you want.

 

526

01:09:01.350 –> 01:09:01.920

TCF Coaches: said okay.

 

527

01:09:02.640 –> 01:09:05.940

TCF Coaches: Yes, you just tell me know if it’s not because i’m respecting your time.

 

528

01:09:06.240 –> 01:09:08.640

Daniel Bennett: Because I appreciate that but i’m i’m good.

 

529

01:09:09.000 –> 01:09:09.270

Okay.

 

530

01:09:11.010 –> 01:09:13.770

TCF Coaches: Let me do one little thing here.

 

531

01:09:17.640 –> 01:09:19.980

30.

 

532

01:09:23.550 –> 01:09:26.640

TCF Coaches: Let me go to Ryan Ryan Ryan Ryan.

 

533

01:09:38.130 –> 01:09:39.480

TCF Coaches: Everybody meet Lee.

 

534

01:09:43.950 –> 01:09:45.360

TCF Coaches: Oh Ryan.

 

535

01:09:46.500 –> 01:09:52.470

TCF Coaches: How are you i’m doing outstanding, Sir, how are you standing to thank you very good talk to you man would you like me to know.

 

536

01:09:53.700 –> 01:10:04.230

TCF Coaches: So my wife and I are looking at doing upon you know a little waterfall and all that, I think I submitted some pictures to your website so we’re thinking of putting it up near the House, so we can enjoy it.

 

537

01:10:05.100 –> 01:10:17.460

TCF Coaches: You know right by the window and then we covered back patio later so that’s kind of what we’re thinking we’re not much on the design side, so we don’t know exactly how to lay things out and all that fun stuff as.

 

538

01:10:20.190 –> 01:10:22.650

TCF Coaches: Well, I appreciate that I like to consider myself a pro.

 

539

01:10:23.730 –> 01:10:24.390

TCF Coaches: that’s awesome.

 

540

01:10:26.100 –> 01:10:35.850

TCF Coaches: Let me it’s as i’m i’m just kind of digging through like a close a couple emails so I can get in and find that email because I did look at it, I just want to pull that up um one quick question how’d you find us.

 

541

01:10:37.260 –> 01:10:42.150

TCF Coaches: My wife is Google brain just went out and looked at a bunch of websites in the local area.

 

542

01:10:43.680 –> 01:10:51.780

TCF Coaches: awesome that’s perfect and was there, did you guys go to the website like what What did she find what do you, what do you know about jv I.

 

543

01:10:53.040 –> 01:11:04.920

TCF Coaches: So we went to the website, we looked at different things there and I, I think I watched one of your YouTube videos that was on the site itself so that that’s pretty much what we know awesome.

 

544

01:11:06.090 –> 01:11:08.790

TCF Coaches: Did you go as far as to pick out a particular package.

 

545

01:11:10.350 –> 01:11:22.020

TCF Coaches: Not so far, all the way size wise we’re kind of looking at like the tranquility package, like a 10 by 14 so something in that that range is probably what we’re thinking okay.

 

546

01:11:23.370 –> 01:11:37.950

TCF Coaches: But we’re not sure you know, one of the other sites we’re looking at a he also had a little bigger, so I guess you guys ready like a 14 by 14 as well yeah so event size somewhere in that range is probably what we’re thinking.

 

547

01:11:39.150 –> 01:11:47.340

TCF Coaches: We don’t want to want to go too small to I go to big gotcha and I got your pictures pulled up and you’re over in the Thompson stationary excellent beautiful area.

 

548

01:11:49.020 –> 01:11:51.510

TCF Coaches: and got plenty of space.

 

549

01:11:52.650 –> 01:11:55.020

TCF Coaches: what’s going to be the deciding factor between the two sizes.

 

550

01:11:57.450 –> 01:11:58.980

TCF Coaches: I don’t know to be honest.

 

551

01:12:00.000 –> 01:12:03.780

TCF Coaches: So it’s it’s just a matter of what looks best and fits best.

 

552

01:12:04.890 –> 01:12:17.070

TCF Coaches: yeah I just full disclosure I was telling everybody that we work with i’ve just always kind of parents who were calling a couple people getting some ideas getting some some rough quotes and talking about the process and all that so.

 

553

01:12:17.550 –> 01:12:30.480

TCF Coaches: One of the guys I spoke with earlier today he mentioned, you know, taking a hose and just kind of mapping it out that way, just to get an idea we did use buckets the other day, but host sounds better, are you talking, are you talking to Aaron Reynolds.

 

554

01:12:31.530 –> 01:12:31.830

TCF Coaches: yeah.

 

555

01:12:33.390 –> 01:12:34.260

TCF Coaches: he’s a buddy of mine.

 

556

01:12:35.400 –> 01:12:45.660

TCF Coaches: aaron’s fantastic, yes, Sam earlier today he seemed good nice what we’re doing that, what did what did what are you hoping to hear from me that you didn’t hear from Aaron.

 

557

01:12:47.670 –> 01:13:04.650

TCF Coaches: You know that’s that’s a great question, so I spoke to him at length earlier today just to get some ideas of what the process is like so he was very helpful and informative and talking about how the economy works and the cleaning and the upkeep all that so.

 

558

01:13:05.850 –> 01:13:13.650

TCF Coaches: really just hear what your processes and and what you guys bring to the table and how you guys are different further.

 

559

01:13:14.790 –> 01:13:21.090

TCF Coaches: You know pond Installers and you just kind of hear your thoughts on on that space and what you would do there.

 

560

01:13:22.920 –> 01:13:26.400

TCF Coaches: Is it okay if i’m completely candid absolutely hundred percent.

 

561

01:13:28.560 –> 01:13:35.430

TCF Coaches: i’m not going to be any different than Aaron he’s fantastic he’s companies fantastic our pricing is probably very similar.

 

562

01:13:36.870 –> 01:13:42.090

TCF Coaches: We install the same same things we do the same stuff so really.

 

563

01:13:43.590 –> 01:13:46.860

TCF Coaches: Apples to apples, you know we’re pretty much the same company.

 

564

01:13:48.240 –> 01:13:48.660

TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

565

01:13:50.100 –> 01:13:57.360

TCF Coaches: it’s really it’s Aaron and I work together from time to time, so this is it’s a it’s a and i’m totally comfortable with with you know him.

 

566

01:13:57.960 –> 01:14:01.620

TCF Coaches: Taking this project I don’t I don’t really know what to say differently, I mean.

 

567

01:14:02.370 –> 01:14:12.030

TCF Coaches: Investment wise we’re probably the same ballpark I would say artistically were similar so it’s really you’re going to get the same experience, whether you deal with Aaron.

 

568

01:14:12.540 –> 01:14:19.260

TCF Coaches: Or you deal with me up, I would say that he probably has availability sooner than I do, do you want to talk about timelines.

 

569

01:14:21.240 –> 01:14:32.040

TCF Coaches: yeah so I mean we’re we’re actually flexible doesn’t have you know we don’t we don’t have a wedding in our backyard in two months that we prepare for so we’re just kind of flexible as far as that goes, but.

 

570

01:14:32.880 –> 01:14:39.930

TCF Coaches: In terms of timelines what are you looking at just as a ballpark June, July okay yeah.

 

571

01:14:42.000 –> 01:14:46.770

TCF Coaches: i’ve been s and S fine like I said we’re not in any nice super rush or anything like that.

 

572

01:14:48.000 –> 01:14:48.990

TCF Coaches: In terms of.

 

573

01:14:50.280 –> 01:14:53.910

TCF Coaches: The landscaping So if you look at those pictures we have there.

 

574

01:14:55.980 –> 01:15:00.180

TCF Coaches: You can see where’s that concrete patio in that space in between the trees know.

 

575

01:15:01.050 –> 01:15:09.900

TCF Coaches: we’re also looking to do rain this section is do something with maybe some rocks and just do some ground cover just get rid of that grass, because what we want to do is.

 

576

01:15:10.590 –> 01:15:20.910

TCF Coaches: The whole section kind of put the pond draw it out away from the patio and then make everything else landscaping rocks.

 

577

01:15:22.140 –> 01:15:28.650

TCF Coaches: Ground cover that kind of stuff so we don’t have to worry about going back there just to give the yard some more texture and feel it.

 

578

01:15:31.020 –> 01:15:44.430

TCF Coaches: In as soon as the kind of thing you can do as well with just tie it all together yeah yeah that’s that’s the fun part it’s just bringing it in and and making it look like it’s been there for 100 years tying it in seamlessly so it doesn’t feel.

 

579

01:15:45.630 –> 01:15:56.940

TCF Coaches: out of place and and that’s that’s the important part of the consulting phase, when we go through this and and using mark and paint and laying it out, so that it feels appropriate.

 

580

01:15:58.470 –> 01:16:05.610

TCF Coaches: Okay yeah that’s that’s a big thing that my wife wants is to make sure, everything can be tied in together and putting together.

 

581

01:16:07.140 –> 01:16:12.510

TCF Coaches: I don’t remember exactly how big that is it’s 10 by 13 I think.

 

582

01:16:14.250 –> 01:16:22.620

TCF Coaches: So i’m assuming I don’t want to assume anything here, what would you kind of recommend for putting there to kind of remove that grass, but.

 

583

01:16:23.250 –> 01:16:28.170

TCF Coaches: fill that space and tied into a pond if we’re talking about between the patio and the.

 

584

01:16:28.620 –> 01:16:38.220

TCF Coaches: Yes, you’re providing those two because otherwise yeah I mean for me, I look at because I cut grass forever, so I think of things in like a linear way, sometimes of.

 

585

01:16:38.460 –> 01:16:45.570

TCF Coaches: How the bed would flow and how we would cut the grass and trim it so when I look at this, I see coming out to the edge of the arbor variety.

 

586

01:16:45.840 –> 01:17:02.640

TCF Coaches: And swooping out, you know, like a radius and then coming back into the patio and then tying it into the other side of the step, so this is one big vignette it’s it’s one own space that way it’s any maintenance it goes on the outside of it if there’s not any weird.

 

587

01:17:03.780 –> 01:17:11.190

TCF Coaches: angles, you know it’s like it’s this is, this is it comes off of the House and flows into the plants and it’s its own space.

 

588

01:17:12.450 –> 01:17:18.840

TCF Coaches: Okay yeah and that’s that’s actually the way I try to describe the kind of life, so I think we’re on the same page there that’s.

 

589

01:17:19.110 –> 01:17:28.170

TCF Coaches: What I wanted to do was keep the lawn mowers out of that area and just make that whole section of the yard flow just kind of come out from the House and just make it.

 

590

01:17:29.100 –> 01:17:34.980

TCF Coaches: Unified those deadlines if it’s a big deal, I mean how that how that transitions because.

 

591

01:17:35.220 –> 01:17:41.910

TCF Coaches: It was the water feature, you know we’re even going to mulch on the outsides of the rocks you know we don’t want that, and you can bring grass right up to it there’s nothing wrong with that.

 

592

01:17:42.390 –> 01:17:45.450

TCF Coaches: But when you have that clean bed line in those you know.

 

593

01:17:45.720 –> 01:17:53.310

TCF Coaches: The plant material that’s going to soften the rocks and blend it into the landscape is it’s a big deal to tie those two things together, it just needs to seem.

 

594

01:17:53.550 –> 01:18:00.150

TCF Coaches: The last thing that needs to happen is is you and your wife sitting on the back porch having a glass of wine and not feeling comfortable.

 

595

01:18:00.570 –> 01:18:04.890

TCF Coaches: And what I mean with that when you start looking at those lines, and when you’re looking out over that.

 

596

01:18:05.820 –> 01:18:16.230

TCF Coaches: go back to that picture up there, like you’re looking out in the field back there you don’t want a weird bed line taking your either you just want to focus on the landscape in the water, not some weird.

 

597

01:18:17.820 –> 01:18:19.230

TCF Coaches: lines that go through there.

 

598

01:18:21.420 –> 01:18:31.140

TCF Coaches: No, I agree 100% that’s kind of what we’re we’re thinking we’re just not the designers or landscape experts to kind of tie it all together.

 

599

01:18:32.730 –> 01:18:34.860

TCF Coaches: So when you build these.

 

600

01:18:35.940 –> 01:18:41.280

TCF Coaches: Water features and you bring in the extra plants and rocks and things like that.

 

601

01:18:42.780 –> 01:18:51.810

TCF Coaches: How much does with the package included as far as the rocks go obviously that that whole section back there’s obviously an additional fee but i’m trying to get an idea of.

 

602

01:18:52.440 –> 01:19:04.230

TCF Coaches: What would we would be looking at package wise to do you know why those medium size ponds and then bringing in additional plants and rocks and other features.

 

603

01:19:05.970 –> 01:19:13.380

TCF Coaches: So let’s say we scroll here I just i’ve got my brochure pulled up anyway looking through so let’s just say we went for.

 

604

01:19:15.990 –> 01:19:18.480

TCF Coaches: The in the reason what size patio.

 

605

01:19:19.890 –> 01:19:36.150

TCF Coaches: patio I think I forget exactly what it was, I think it was like 12 or 13 and then the area next to is comparable but, like to see shorter, I think, on the width from from a design perspective.

 

606

01:19:37.710 –> 01:19:46.770

TCF Coaches: We need the the water feature to be bigger and or smaller than patio because if it’s the same size, it just it’s it doesn’t flow right.

 

607

01:19:47.160 –> 01:19:58.620

TCF Coaches: So I would say, probably pushing closer to the serenity, the 14 by 14 would make sense Okay, so if we were to do that and well let’s say that’s that’s 59.

 

608

01:19:59.190 –> 01:20:08.490

TCF Coaches: landscape and pulling around realistically you’re going to be right at 20 and we could dial it back a little bit, but so I would say comfortably between 18 and 20 total package with.

 

609

01:20:09.570 –> 01:20:13.110

TCF Coaches: Water feature turnkey landscape done.

 

610

01:20:14.310 –> 01:20:23.220

TCF Coaches: Okay, could we go more than that absolutely but that’s just that that would tie in nicely because I mean you have plenty of space and then I could landscape your whole backyard and make the whole thing water but.

 

611

01:20:23.670 –> 01:20:37.050

TCF Coaches: You know that’s I don’t think it’s necessary i’m good with it, but it’s I tried to get things in scale it’s just it’s how things flow is really important from the design perspective and how it feels so sometimes speakers, not better.

 

612

01:20:38.550 –> 01:20:42.900

TCF Coaches: Oh yeah I agree with you know I think you always can go up.

 

613

01:20:44.520 –> 01:20:45.990

TCF Coaches: Bigger up to a certain point.

 

614

01:20:47.160 –> 01:20:50.220

TCF Coaches: But I don’t think we need one of the you know 30 foot.

 

615

01:20:50.820 –> 01:21:04.950

TCF Coaches: By 30 times it’s a it’s a different you know, a different animal it can work, but then, then you transition to hell, because that gets into like how a backyard pool would feel spatially, then you you change your landscape so it’s a.

 

616

01:21:05.580 –> 01:21:13.380

TCF Coaches: It when I like to do with the patio is, I want to bring this thing, so it feels cohesive to your House and actually feels cozy like it brings it up to you.

 

617

01:21:14.430 –> 01:21:26.220

TCF Coaches: And when we get into those bigger ones it’s it’s farther away and it’s it’s I mean I don’t I don’t know use a different term other than it’s just farther away when you want to feel intimate involved with the space.

 

618

01:21:27.870 –> 01:21:36.030

TCF Coaches: yeah and that’s that’s why we wanted to free up near the houses we’ve got a covered patio right there since we’re in a patio and he had a water fall.

 

619

01:21:36.600 –> 01:21:43.440

TCF Coaches: You know roiling all right away, and then we’d be able to see it from our bedroom window, which is next to that or the family room window right there so.

 

620

01:21:43.890 –> 01:21:55.470

TCF Coaches: We just want to be able to have it up there and experience it so that you know it’s just it’s there all the time, instead of further out in the yard, where you can see it from a distance, but you’re not able to enjoy it so.

 

621

01:21:56.970 –> 01:22:03.450

TCF Coaches: yeah So what are the so we got the you got the covered porch there the screen porch, what are the other two windows that i’m seeing in the picture.

 

622

01:22:04.530 –> 01:22:05.010

TCF Coaches: So.

 

623

01:22:06.030 –> 01:22:14.730

TCF Coaches: The one closest to the porch that window is the family room and then, on the other side closest to the edge of the House by the our bodies that’s all faster.

 

624

01:22:15.150 –> 01:22:21.600

TCF Coaches: Okay, so we want to make sure that we get that waterfall position kind of coming off on an angle of your patio so that.

 

625

01:22:22.110 –> 01:22:26.460

TCF Coaches: The viewpoint is from all three three places, so that you can see in the dead of winter.

 

626

01:22:26.760 –> 01:22:32.550

TCF Coaches: You can look out of your bedroom you can crack the window in the evenings in the spring in the fall and enjoy the sounds like you’re in the mountains.

 

627

01:22:33.000 –> 01:22:43.590

TCF Coaches: And then your your screened in patio is going to become an acoustic Chamber it’s going to draw a lot of that Saudi and so we want to get that waterfall just so you can enjoy it from every angle every season.

 

628

01:22:45.000 –> 01:22:46.050

TCF Coaches: Alright next.

 

629

01:22:47.340 –> 01:23:03.570

TCF Coaches: Consideration I talked about to my wife now you can’t see it from that picture very well, but they’re the backyard slopes downward away from her house is is that going to cause any issues to have that waterfall on that at that angle.

 

630

01:23:05.520 –> 01:23:17.190

TCF Coaches: When the pond would be smoking kind of get away from that we may have to bring in some extra soil just to raise that up, but if we’re going with a 14 by 14.

 

631

01:23:17.520 –> 01:23:24.000

TCF Coaches: And we’re keeping it relatively close to the patio we may be able to and that’s when we come for like the onsite consultation.

 

632

01:23:24.300 –> 01:23:35.850

TCF Coaches: i’ll bring a transit with me because I don’t want to miss that if it’s you know it looks like a few inch great change but i’ve done it before, and it was a foot great change and that’s a lot of topsoil so I don’t want to miss that and.

 

633

01:23:36.960 –> 01:23:44.280

TCF Coaches: I feel like we could probably generate enough soil with a 14 by 14 to not have to bring in any soil, because I don’t want this waterfall to be too tall either.

 

634

01:23:44.730 –> 01:23:51.870

TCF Coaches: it’s it’s really 18 inches to 20 inches is sounds really short but it’s not.

 

635

01:23:52.530 –> 01:24:00.690

TCF Coaches: and keeping it relatively low and scale because it’s the biggest thing we need to do we need to scale with those providers, we need to scale with your patio, we need to scale with.

 

636

01:24:01.320 –> 01:24:07.530

TCF Coaches: The rise to your your screened in porch and if this thing’s too tall it just looks out of place it doesn’t make sense.

 

637

01:24:08.550 –> 01:24:18.600

TCF Coaches: Okay, you got like a waterfall yeah yeah how we’re going to build off of that and work back so we may be able to cultivate enough so it will not even have to bring in, but if we do we look at that and it, it can be.

 

638

01:24:18.960 –> 01:24:24.240

TCF Coaches: You know, a dump trailer loader to five or six yards, so we just don’t want us to be a volcano.

 

639

01:24:25.440 –> 01:24:36.000

TCF Coaches: Sure yeah and I get that and when you guys dig out and you execute the for the pod you use a lot of that topsoil there just to build around.

 

640

01:24:36.450 –> 01:24:47.490

TCF Coaches: And you just kind of replace it around the yard, yes, as you’re building the rocks and all the landscaping around it, so our method is and i’ll try to explain this visually.

 

641

01:24:50.220 –> 01:25:02.160

TCF Coaches: we’re going to go to two foot depth that’s our goal for this this package, and what we do is, we take the first foot of soil so let’s say it’s 14 by 14 we’re actually going to excavate 15 by 15.

 

642

01:25:03.210 –> 01:25:18.990

TCF Coaches: Because when we say 14 by 14 that’s actual water inside of the rocks and we take that So if you just imagine you take that soil and literally just flip it that one foot of soil, the whole 14 by 14 and just flip it backwards out into the grass.

 

643

01:25:20.010 –> 01:25:30.420

TCF Coaches: And then we go in another foot and a half or so maybe two foot in some spots, we take that soil that shape visually and flip it on top of the other, so now we have like a berm right.

 

644

01:25:31.380 –> 01:25:41.760

TCF Coaches: it’s spread out it’s not a volcano so we’re literally taking the excavated soil and making the height for the waterfall and we make the burn we make that raised bed feel for the landscape plants as well.

 

645

01:25:42.360 –> 01:25:47.280

TCF Coaches: And that’s where sometimes we want to bring in some extra soil, because I don’t want this thing to literally like.

 

646

01:25:47.520 –> 01:25:59.130

TCF Coaches: Be 18 into this this evening two foot tall and then have a sharp edge that comes right off it like a 45 degree angle that’s the volcano I want this, the soul to slope out slowly and away six to eight feet.

 

647

01:26:00.120 –> 01:26:06.420

TCF Coaches: Okay copy so that you have this really nice visual flowing thing not this weird thing shoot right now the backyard.

 

648

01:26:07.680 –> 01:26:22.440

TCF Coaches: So it makes perfect sense that’s how we use all the soil and which it’s it’s a win, win we don’t have to haul off the soil so it’s great, so I think it’s perfect yeah that’s that sounds good okay now on these this Ray Python packages, the 14 by 14.

 

649

01:26:23.970 –> 01:26:31.230

TCF Coaches: what’s the big difference between the serenity and then the deluxe serenity let’s see.

 

650

01:26:32.910 –> 01:26:33.750

TCF Coaches: let’s just look.

 

651

01:26:35.520 –> 01:26:38.010

TCF Coaches: smell the input stream on demand yeah.

 

652

01:26:39.090 –> 01:26:50.460

TCF Coaches: yeah you get a stream and a fish case for that one Okay, and the streams or that’s a tricky one for me, sometimes I think just a nice waterfall set back about a foot and a half off the edge is very elegant.

 

653

01:26:52.080 –> 01:26:57.330

TCF Coaches: If it’s coming off like a hillside like yours makes sense to just not do a stream when it fades away.

 

654

01:26:58.860 –> 01:27:10.500

TCF Coaches: When there’s a hillside and that’s my whole goal it’s doing this is to really make it look like it could possibly have happened in your space I would love for your friends and neighbors to come over and go wow it was just here when you got here.

 

655

01:27:11.820 –> 01:27:17.820

TCF Coaches: yeah vs force because trust me I go in a lot of water features and consultations and renovations where it’s just you know.

 

656

01:27:18.120 –> 01:27:29.190

TCF Coaches: rock pile stacked up and water flowing out of it and the customer loves it, so I have to be careful not to say anything but it doesn’t look like it’s truly been there it’s just you can tell it was it was put there.

 

657

01:27:30.990 –> 01:27:31.350

TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

658

01:27:32.790 –> 01:27:33.630

TCF Coaches: super helpful.

 

659

01:27:34.710 –> 01:27:38.070

TCF Coaches: What are common questions that people ask that.

 

660

01:27:39.120 –> 01:27:47.790

TCF Coaches: come up or is a first time i’ve never had a pod were water feature what is something that I should know as a potential buyer.

 

661

01:27:49.230 –> 01:27:56.250

TCF Coaches: that’s common maintenance is a very common question how how long is it, how much time, am I going to spend taking care of this.

 

662

01:27:58.110 –> 01:28:02.340

TCF Coaches: minutes a month truly minutes it’s not not a lot involved.

 

663

01:28:03.390 –> 01:28:10.680

TCF Coaches: You clean your Scammer you put in some bacteria feed your fish will get back planner to you enjoy the whole part of it it’s fun it’s not cumbersome.

 

664

01:28:12.030 –> 01:28:16.170

TCF Coaches: timelines you know, do you as a company, do you actually meet your timeline.

 

665

01:28:17.670 –> 01:28:26.460

TCF Coaches: Communication, how do we communicate with our customers budget, do you stay within budget, those are those are probably the top questions.

 

666

01:28:27.840 –> 01:28:31.410

TCF Coaches: When I give you 50% deposit you’re going to run away with my money and never see you again.

 

667

01:28:34.980 –> 01:28:40.260

TCF Coaches: yeah so I answers to those and i’m assuming are all escaped one for the.

 

668

01:28:41.760 –> 01:28:51.060

TCF Coaches: creaminess communication is huge for me to ask that question actually what his previous contract is i’ve worked with I told them they face communication.

 

669

01:28:51.660 –> 01:29:01.710

TCF Coaches: You know if something changes as long as we know about it, and we can work with it, so it sounds like you’re not fun with that kind of stuff as well yeah it’s my wife and I are word.

 

670

01:29:02.490 –> 01:29:12.810

TCF Coaches: That was a seminar years ago and basically that the speaker said, everyone has a word and that’s kind of how they live their life is based on a word and my wife and I our word is knowing.

 

671

01:29:13.740 –> 01:29:21.120

TCF Coaches: If we know we’re Okay, with it, if we don’t know we’re not okay with it so as a contractor, I want you to know everything necessary.

 

672

01:29:21.750 –> 01:29:31.440

TCF Coaches: And I don’t want you and or your wife being concerned about any of the process, so how I set it up and how you and I, create our scope of work when i’m sitting there with you.

 

673

01:29:31.860 –> 01:29:37.320

TCF Coaches: At your coffee table at your kitchen table wherever we’re at and we’re finalizing this thing we’re putting this thing and pin.

 

674

01:29:38.700 –> 01:29:42.540

TCF Coaches: we’re going to talk about that stuff and i’m going to put it in writing, you know it’s.

 

675

01:29:42.990 –> 01:29:55.170

TCF Coaches: Brian, how do you want to be Community or Ryan sorry, how do you want to be communicated with what’s the you tell me and that’s just what we’ll do makes it easy So if you tell me how you want to talk, we talk to communicate with that’s just what we’ll do makes my life easy.

 

676

01:29:58.440 –> 01:30:00.660

TCF Coaches: Because I don’t want to over communicate cuz sometimes I can be annoying.

 

677

01:30:02.880 –> 01:30:12.660

TCF Coaches: But that’s but that goes back to the downside of my word be knowing I want everybody to know so that there’s no confusion there’s no miss mutual mystification going on.

 

678

01:30:14.310 –> 01:30:20.250

TCF Coaches: No, I appreciate that i’m very much somebody who wants to know as well, and again if you know, then you can work with it, if you don’t know.

 

679

01:30:21.660 –> 01:30:35.220

TCF Coaches: And one of those one of those things going to look like they’re going to look like if we have a delay, you know it’s we may have to call and go hey Ryan, you know truck broke down hey delivery didn’t come today, one of my guys, unfortunately, you know doesn’t feel well today.

 

680

01:30:36.270 –> 01:30:44.700

TCF Coaches: This is one that happens pretty common is and you may experience this yourself we’re in your space we’re working and you want to add something on you don’t want us to leave you want us to stay there.

 

681

01:30:45.120 –> 01:30:48.660

TCF Coaches: Well, I spect this job was to say it’s a four day job.

 

682

01:30:49.200 –> 01:30:57.480

TCF Coaches: And I told the customer we’re starting a new job on Monday, well, I have to call the next customer and go i’m so sorry we’re not going to be able to come on Monday, because our current customer.

 

683

01:30:57.870 –> 01:31:01.680

TCF Coaches: actually wants to add lights to this and it’s going to take us another day is it okay if we start on Tuesday.

 

684

01:31:02.850 –> 01:31:09.090

TCF Coaches: copy yeah I understand how those things go, so those terms of timeline we’re flexible.

 

685

01:31:10.140 –> 01:31:16.470

TCF Coaches: And it’s it’s we we make sure that we have all the material on hand before we ever started job so that we don’t have to worry about material delays.

 

686

01:31:17.490 –> 01:31:19.290

TCF Coaches: So that’s that’s that’s important.

 

687

01:31:21.990 –> 01:31:32.160

TCF Coaches: And then really outside of that is like budget, I mean when we lock in a number we lock in a number, and once the scope of work is graded it’s not going to change unless you want to change, and then we can read a change order.

 

688

01:31:33.330 –> 01:31:36.000

TCF Coaches: Okay, so i’m good with that yeah.

 

689

01:31:37.230 –> 01:31:39.600

TCF Coaches: Okay, what is your.

 

690

01:31:41.910 –> 01:31:55.500

TCF Coaches: The kind of the next steps in terms of if you were to come out and do a console I think I saw on on your site is a charge to to come out and do that can you walk me through that process, and what next steps look like sure.

 

691

01:31:56.400 –> 01:32:09.390

TCF Coaches: So we do an onsite consultation, it is $500 the $500 gets credited to the job when you say yes let’s move forward if for any reason, you need to think about it, while we’re out there in the consultation that $500 is good for 60 days.

 

692

01:32:11.190 –> 01:32:23.130

TCF Coaches: And at that console we’re going to walk through the whole space so really it’s not it’s it’s we’re preparing the job is what we’re doing at that point we’re hanging out we’re spending an hour sometimes maybe an hour and a half.

 

693

01:32:23.610 –> 01:32:32.010

TCF Coaches: we’re painting out the space we’re talking about it we’re experiencing it we’re laying it out we’re basically prepping the job at this point.

 

694

01:32:33.630 –> 01:32:46.710

TCF Coaches: And then it’s also usable information because it does happen every now and again that someone decides they don’t want to move forward, but it was a you know it’s they got a lot of needed information to make a decision, however, they chose.

 

695

01:32:47.340 –> 01:32:59.940

TCF Coaches: And then the other way, is when we’re sitting there as well, and with consultation, you want to move forward, we don’t even worry about the 500 bucks we just go to the 50% deposit which locks you into the schedule and then we start moving forward like that.

 

696

01:33:02.610 –> 01:33:03.030

TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

697

01:33:04.740 –> 01:33:07.170

TCF Coaches: Is there is there anything that i’ve missed.

 

698

01:33:09.660 –> 01:33:12.750

TCF Coaches: This commonly comes up or anything else that I should know about.

 

699

01:33:15.120 –> 01:33:19.380

TCF Coaches: On my end does this need to go through Hoa approval.

 

700

01:33:20.610 –> 01:33:24.120

TCF Coaches: that’s a great question to ask my need because.

 

701

01:33:25.500 –> 01:33:34.980

TCF Coaches: I know there I think toss into station requires he can get a pool put in, I think you need a permit for that, so I would assume that maybe some kind of Ponant.

 

702

01:33:35.970 –> 01:33:46.680

TCF Coaches: If there’s an Hoa approval i’ll find out about that and that’s something we go over on the consultation to I have a little package that I have put together it’s you know it’s everything that they need.

 

703

01:33:48.840 –> 01:34:06.750

TCF Coaches: A couple emails couple images i’ve i’ve never had i’ve never gotten I always get through the ways i’ve never had any repercussions, I mean we fortunately we’ve been around 26 years, and you know it’s socially it’s pretty easy to figure out who we are, what we do and so.

 

704

01:34:08.430 –> 01:34:08.970

TCF Coaches: And then.

 

705

01:34:10.050 –> 01:34:14.520

TCF Coaches: Obviously, at that point, you know seo wise copies of insurance, we make sure we get that to you.

 

706

01:34:15.540 –> 01:34:15.930

TCF Coaches: Okay.

 

707

01:34:18.480 –> 01:34:31.380

TCF Coaches: And I think we’re going to need to get a fence installed, so we don’t have one of those now but i’m pretty sure that if he doesn’t require my homeowner’s insurance probably will actually you don’t have to have a fence with the pond.

 

708

01:34:32.550 –> 01:34:37.680

TCF Coaches: Okay, I did not know that swimming pools yes okay ponds, no.

 

709

01:34:38.880 –> 01:34:43.740

TCF Coaches: Well, let me, let me talk to my wife about that thing because we were anticipating that we would eat one.

 

710

01:34:44.850 –> 01:34:48.810

TCF Coaches: But i’ll reach out to Rachel is that common across all a.

 

711

01:34:49.980 –> 01:35:00.810

TCF Coaches: State it’s a State thing, so I don’t know I mean that the Hoa it’s I mean it because here’s the thing look at all the neighborhoods you drive past, and they have a pond with the fountain in the middle of it, with no fence around it.

 

712

01:35:02.100 –> 01:35:14.430

TCF Coaches: Okay, so that’s the it’s only a matter of time, I mean I see it coming in the future and i’m really surprised that metro has it picked up on that permitting you know that permitting fee it’s really the way I see it.

 

713

01:35:15.690 –> 01:35:25.800

TCF Coaches: So, at some point so really at the end of the day, it’s a safety thing I mean this upon is different than a swimming pool, because when we build these we build steps down into them we make them, so, if any, any.

 

714

01:35:27.120 –> 01:35:36.720

TCF Coaches: person and or animal where to get in this, they can walk themselves out of the pond versus a swimming pool that’s you know it can be six feet Plus, these are only two foot deep.

 

715

01:35:37.350 –> 01:35:58.650

TCF Coaches: So safety wise, I mean, yes, but it’s it’s reality, I mean good someone drown in a shore real life, so I think that’s the thing, and the reason why it’s just they’re not deep and actually be candid I don’t know why they don’t require fences i’m glad, but for some reason they don’t okay.

 

716

01:36:01.020 –> 01:36:08.130

TCF Coaches: yeah i’ll have to i’ll come on a homeowner’s insurance company and see how they go with that.

 

717

01:36:09.210 –> 01:36:24.390

TCF Coaches: I prefer not having a fence I just like the wide open book i’m just thinking liability wise I don’t know any issues with having a pot that’s real i’m not sure that’s a good that’s a good question to just make sure just peace of mind okay okay.

 

718

01:36:25.950 –> 01:36:39.300

TCF Coaches: Do you know if permits are required for no, no, no permits innocent there again i’m so surprised that they haven’t started doing this i’m assuming they don’t have anyone to.

 

719

01:36:40.170 –> 01:36:50.250

TCF Coaches: Train on staff to go out and inspect these things would be my guess okay makes sense and it’s we were doing actually a recreation pond.

 

720

01:36:51.240 –> 01:36:59.280

TCF Coaches: Several years back, and my electrical contractors was out there, putting electricity and he had to be by code in a pool swimming pool.

 

721

01:36:59.640 –> 01:37:06.540

TCF Coaches: The electrical plug had to be 10 feet away from the edge of the pond i’m sorry the edge of the pool, and I said Greg, this is not a ball it’s a pond.

 

722

01:37:06.960 –> 01:37:12.540

TCF Coaches: And he said no let’s buy code, I have to do this, and I was like well do you have your code book he’s like yeah I do, I was like well look up.

 

723

01:37:13.050 –> 01:37:17.910

TCF Coaches: You know, go to the index where we need to go look and see so look up recreational pond and see what the requirements are.

 

724

01:37:18.390 –> 01:37:27.990

TCF Coaches: And he’s thumbing through it thumbing through and you can’t find is getting frustrated like it’s not in here, I was like I know because there’s not a requirement for that it doesn’t there’s no regulation now.

 

725

01:37:29.070 –> 01:37:39.450

TCF Coaches: Should we cover it and protect it just for safety sure let’s do that you know let’s let’s turn it the right way let’s put you know gfs on it waterproof protection let’s put a phone stone over it, so that there’s not any issues so.

 

726

01:37:40.500 –> 01:37:46.590

TCF Coaches: that’s where I think there’s just there’s no one in the metro codes world that has training in this to even inspect them.

 

727

01:37:48.270 –> 01:37:56.340

TCF Coaches: Okay, well, that makes it easier on on your end yeah yeah it’s it’s because I get that question all the time it’s like what what’s the permit process it’s like there’s not one.

 

728

01:37:56.820 –> 01:38:03.840

TCF Coaches: Now, if you have electrical put in and that may be some that’s different that’s electrical but that’s not always unless you’re doing a renovation, or something adding an electrical outlet.

 

729

01:38:04.320 –> 01:38:08.460

TCF Coaches: that’s that’s not a big deal So if you don’t have electrical outside that would be one of the questions to.

 

730

01:38:09.600 –> 01:38:15.570

TCF Coaches: We don’t do electrical in based on the price of this electric was outside of that I work with three different electrical contractors.

 

731

01:38:15.960 –> 01:38:23.910

TCF Coaches: And I can refer you to those Why do I use three it’s really just availability, all three immigrate is just who’s available at the time that you need it sure yeah.

 

732

01:38:25.290 –> 01:38:30.540

TCF Coaches: I noticed yet lady packages and that’s something that we want to do the.

 

733

01:38:31.740 –> 01:38:39.630

TCF Coaches: Interest I get asked a lot to it so it’s your it’s I mean I feel so salesy when I say this but it’s real you have a daytime ponds and a nighttime bond.

 

734

01:38:40.710 –> 01:38:46.290

TCF Coaches: Having lights on, it just basically have twice the pond, why does make sense, and I look at it from a standpoint to.

 

735

01:38:46.740 –> 01:38:56.880

TCF Coaches: The majority of time spent a lot of times is in the evenings just because of work in life, and you may not be able to, and you know may not want to sit out there was 90 degrees in the summer nicer to be out there in the evening with a cocktail.

 

736

01:38:58.200 –> 01:39:11.010

TCF Coaches: yeah that sounds wonderful okay um the file is for the final things is we do have in round irrigation and at the corner of.

 

737

01:39:12.180 –> 01:39:15.480

TCF Coaches: The good patio that I know there’s at least one.

 

738

01:39:18.300 –> 01:39:22.110

TCF Coaches: One irrigation thanks to that would probably need to be removed i’m assuming.

 

739

01:39:23.310 –> 01:39:33.720

TCF Coaches: You guys deal with that a lot of know how to navigate all around that stuff yeah what we do is is once we find it will will stab it up and clamp it.

 

740

01:39:34.320 –> 01:39:41.580

TCF Coaches: And then, depending on to the extent of it we we may be able to reroute it ourselves, and just take care of it if it’s a little more extensive.

 

741

01:39:42.300 –> 01:39:44.610

TCF Coaches: We just basically secure it and Stub it.

 

742

01:39:45.450 –> 01:39:51.570

TCF Coaches: so that you can run the rest of irrigation and not have to worry about that one, and then we contact clear water irrigation is who we use.

 

743

01:39:51.840 –> 01:39:57.450

TCF Coaches: And they can come out and take it from there, so a lot of times if it’s just depending if it’s a mainline that’s different.

 

744

01:39:57.840 –> 01:40:12.690

TCF Coaches: Because that is a big deal, but if it’s just a swing pipe or something we can just move that it’s not a big deal okay great okay i’m super wonderful information, I will reach out to our Hoa find out what’s required and i’ll find out of your sense.

 

745

01:40:13.860 –> 01:40:21.720

TCF Coaches: And it sounds like if we don’t we might still want to do it, but that wouldn’t be a showstopper we could always get that installed after work.

 

746

01:40:23.070 –> 01:40:30.540

TCF Coaches: Okay, is there anything we missed or or anything else I need to know, should I call here and Reynolds and tell him he’s not going to get this job.

 

747

01:40:34.410 –> 01:40:47.880

TCF Coaches: No, I don’t want to go either way right now we’re just on a couple folks just talk to my wife and and then we’ll kind of figure it out there, so that was was there anything that you that you needed to hear from me that I just haven’t shared with you.

 

748

01:40:49.020 –> 01:41:04.380

TCF Coaches: know I sincerely appreciate your straight shooter and that’s that’s how I appreciate talking to people about everything in life so you’ve been very helpful and I appreciate it awesome Ryan, let me know I appreciate it, thank you, thanks.

 

749

01:41:07.980 –> 01:41:08.640

TCF Coaches: awkward was that.

 

750

01:41:10.080 –> 01:41:11.430

TCF Coaches: Were you at Aaron I know you’re on here.

 

751

01:41:17.610 –> 01:41:19.050

TCF Coaches: So, and come on.

 

752

01:41:20.400 –> 01:41:21.720

Aaron Reynolds: yeah hey Derek can you hear me.

 

753

01:41:22.350 –> 01:41:26.460

TCF Coaches: So what did I what did I share with them that you didn’t or vice versa.

 

754

01:41:28.950 –> 01:41:40.890

Aaron Reynolds: Not not a lot, so I went into I think I answered all of his questions on he’s a high C guy wanted all the details, is what I wrote on my little intake form and.

 

755

01:41:41.610 –> 01:41:56.610

Aaron Reynolds: Man, we were talking, you know maintenance and trimming plants and keeping plants potted and all these like how many lights and the wattage and stuff like that you and I was in the weeds a little bit more, so you kept a more high level.

 

756

01:41:57.630 –> 01:42:03.240

Aaron Reynolds: which I really I was spending every second just describing notes over here as fast as I could.

 

757

01:42:04.860 –> 01:42:14.100

Aaron Reynolds: I really loved how you were talking about the perspective of the job, and you, you were asking what’s in you know what’s in these windows over here and what’s that viewpoint over here.

 

758

01:42:14.610 –> 01:42:25.740

Aaron Reynolds: And you got into some critical details that I I would only see had, I asked more questions or bit been on site, one of which was the slope of the yard.

 

759

01:42:27.090 –> 01:42:34.680

Aaron Reynolds: which you know you just kind of got into it, because you’re you’ve been doing this and you know the right questions to ask and so i’m still learning but.

 

760

01:42:36.270 –> 01:42:40.350

Aaron Reynolds: Man, it was good, this is, this is really good we’re pretty close on price.

 

761

01:42:41.550 –> 01:42:43.770

Aaron Reynolds: And the vision and the goal, I think.

 

762

01:42:45.000 –> 01:42:48.900

Aaron Reynolds: Ultimately we kind of are pretty well aligned on everything.

 

763

01:42:50.910 –> 01:42:52.410

Aaron Reynolds: From that perspective, but.

 

764

01:42:53.520 –> 01:43:10.740

Aaron Reynolds: yeah you definitely you talk you speak it better and talk a lot better what one thing that you have I can never touch is the the statement yeah you know we’ve been around 26 years so it’s easy to verify, who we are and i’m like yeah i’ve been around about a year and a half.

 

765

01:43:13.530 –> 01:43:14.760

Aaron Reynolds: Now that’s that oh yeah.

 

766

01:43:15.240 –> 01:43:19.110

TCF Coaches: that’s the you know with but one day, you will so yeah.

 

767

01:43:19.200 –> 01:43:19.650

yeah.

 

768

01:43:20.910 –> 01:43:25.680

Aaron Reynolds: This is cool like a lot of comments are like oh my God aaron’s on the call and blah blah blah but.

 

769

01:43:26.250 –> 01:43:33.300

Aaron Reynolds: i’m loving it man I don’t care, who gets the job I just just the opportunity to kind of go back to back and.

 

770

01:43:33.960 –> 01:43:42.990

Aaron Reynolds: I have my notes from earlier today in front of me and then and then here, you know what you’re getting into and the way that you’re asking questions and.

 

771

01:43:43.770 –> 01:43:53.160

Aaron Reynolds: Just a totally you know different approach to the literally the exact same scenario on the same day so yeah this is chance of a lifetime, for me it was cool.

 

772

01:43:53.640 –> 01:43:58.410

TCF Coaches: That was I couldn’t believe it when he was saying, and I was so hoping he talked to you and that’s why I said he talking to Aaron Reynolds.

 

773

01:44:00.330 –> 01:44:01.110

TCF Coaches: You fucking kidding me.

 

774

01:44:02.010 –> 01:44:03.390

Aaron Reynolds: You were very.

 

775

01:44:05.040 –> 01:44:11.130

Aaron Reynolds: Nice and and treated me well as a contractor in your same area and I.

 

776

01:44:14.430 –> 01:44:14.610

TCF Coaches: know.

 

777

01:44:16.440 –> 01:44:17.310

TCF Coaches: That you respect man.

 

778

01:44:17.940 –> 01:44:18.840

TCF Coaches: you’re doing good shit.

 

779

01:44:20.880 –> 01:44:22.470

Aaron Reynolds: I appreciate that so.

 

780

01:44:25.980 –> 01:44:26.610

TCF Coaches: broke up a little bit.

 

781

01:44:28.650 –> 01:44:34.590

TCF Coaches: But I appreciate that I do and nate said, if I get the job I can send it out to you.

 

782

01:44:38.550 –> 01:44:39.930

Aaron Reynolds: yeah exactly.

 

783

01:44:41.070 –> 01:44:41.850

Aaron Reynolds: i’m doing with you.

 

784

01:44:42.240 –> 01:44:50.850

TCF Coaches: yeah well that’s I mean that’s that’s a realized, and I almost want to say that it’s like you know Ryan it’s possibility that it’s my team and aaron’s team might be on the same job so.

 

785

01:44:52.110 –> 01:44:52.740

TCF Coaches: It could happen.

 

786

01:44:54.510 –> 01:44:57.510

TCF Coaches: Though yeah it’ll be interesting to see what.

 

787

01:44:58.680 –> 01:45:02.670

TCF Coaches: What plays out so money wise, you were doing that that 16 and 20 as well.

 

788

01:45:04.200 –> 01:45:21.570

Aaron Reynolds: I started off with 11 by 16 1313 K for a starting price and then I was like you know if you want plants fish lighting auto dose or like we you know you’re maybe looking around 15 K, you know and we didn’t get into.

 

789

01:45:22.320 –> 01:45:25.980

Aaron Reynolds: We didn’t get into the details of what that landscaping is going to look like.

 

790

01:45:27.270 –> 01:45:34.320

Aaron Reynolds: What you did, and you brought him up to the 20 Day, which is you know that’s the right route where i’d be with it to.

 

791

01:45:36.840 –> 01:45:37.410

TCF Coaches: be interesting.

 

792

01:45:38.790 –> 01:45:43.410

TCF Coaches: what’s the so what’s your father I just said, I didn’t even I just said, let me know.

 

793

01:45:44.550 –> 01:45:46.260

TCF Coaches: So I didn’t even schedule another call I.

 

794

01:45:47.460 –> 01:45:50.550

Aaron Reynolds: Think I think i’m losing you there a little bit, but anyway.

 

795

01:45:54.060 –> 01:45:55.500

TCF Coaches: Well we’ll see it’ll be.

 

796

01:45:56.730 –> 01:46:01.770

TCF Coaches: we’ll see what we’ll see what happens next, and then you do have available which what what are you looking for.

 

797

01:46:01.830 –> 01:46:03.420

Aaron Reynolds: When is your next available see.

 

798

01:46:03.720 –> 01:46:04.380

calendar.

 

799

01:46:05.490 –> 01:46:05.700

Aaron Reynolds: we’re.

 

800

01:46:05.940 –> 01:46:07.860

Aaron Reynolds: we’re rolling set like.

 

801

01:46:08.400 –> 01:46:12.300

Aaron Reynolds: Mid mid April, right now, so i’d start that job April 18.

 

802

01:46:13.140 –> 01:46:19.530

TCF Coaches: So that I mean that could be a deciding factor right there yeah you get it done sooner, so that could mean that’s that’s definitely your favorite.

 

803

01:46:20.790 –> 01:46:21.150

Aaron Reynolds: yeah.

 

804

01:46:22.350 –> 01:46:22.950

TCF Coaches: yeah no.

 

805

01:46:23.580 –> 01:46:24.180

TCF Coaches: I think I got a.

 

806

01:46:24.600 –> 01:46:26.520

TCF Coaches: job in Kentucky that I might sell out to you.

 

807

01:46:28.230 –> 01:46:32.850

Aaron Reynolds: yeah 30 K sounds good you’ll make 20 K will call it good everybody’s happy.

 

808

01:46:34.470 –> 01:46:35.070

TCF Coaches: that’s awesome.

 

809

01:46:37.860 –> 01:46:48.420

TCF Coaches: Well cool well Lindsay just said before we start the call stop it and started so that makes sense for do that well that was fun well, thank you guys for hanging out with me.

 

810

01:46:49.320 –> 01:46:56.490

TCF Coaches: Any guys that are new to my call you know, this would be a monthly call, so I hope you guys enjoyed it, I have a lot of fun doing this.

 

811

01:46:57.240 –> 01:47:10.470

TCF Coaches: And I mean I can’t think of a better call to go back and forth with Aaron I mean that’s that’s that was fun oh that doesn’t happen very often So this was a one if if people weren’t on this call, they needed to be on this one, because this is this was good.

 

812

01:47:13.860 –> 01:47:21.720

TCF Coaches: All right, so Lindsay, can I just literally stop recording here and just start over Do I need to jump out of this.

 

813

01:47:22.470 –> 01:47:34.770

Lindsey: nope that’ll be if you just want to hit stop recording they’ll be a little stop button and then after it stops if you just want to hit like the play button again for the recording that helps us split it up on the back end of things.

 

814

01:47:35.490 –> 01:47:38.250

TCF Coaches: Let me where is so fun looking at top.

 

815

01:47:41.730 –> 01:47:43.320

TCF Coaches: paul’s request stop recording okay.



Mindset 02-01-2022

Mindset 02-01-2022

Tick Tock Goes the Clock. Hear the 10 things that it takes to be a good sales person.

Rumble LIVE 03-24-2022

Rumble LIVE 03-24-2022

Join Dan Salinger & Gilbert Hardy take on Greg & Tim as they pre-test for Black Belt

1

00:00:03.929 –> 00:00:10.530

Tim C: All right, all welcome to rumble call live here we are, we get to purple belts on the call they’re going to be.

 

2

00:00:10.920 –> 00:00:26.670

Tim C: Being tuned up for their test for black belt against Derek Johnson I have Greg Dempsey, will be joining us very shortly fees and on right yet to help us get through these tests so Gilbert you’re here with us and who else is here who else we got here, Dan salinger you here to my friend.

 

3

00:00:31.560 –> 00:00:32.340

Dan Salinger: yep i’m here.

 

4

00:00:32.850 –> 00:00:37.980

Tim C: Fantastic Dan welcome so guys before we get going, I want to buy I want to.

 

5

00:00:38.310 –> 00:00:48.780

Tim C: congratulate everybody for making the time to get here, I appreciate you coming here, who has if anybody has not been here on a rumble call live with a pre test like this just putting me in the chat box, if you will.

 

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Tim C: before recording we asked, so the scale one to 10 how people were doing and i’m seeing eights and nines if you had just joining, and you want to share with you how you’re feeling welcome justin.

 

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Tim C: Craig welcome.

 

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Tim C: yeah you want to see how you doing a scale one to 10 because, by the end of the call, I hope you feel a little bit better about whatever’s going on in your business in your personal life because we’re here to make things better so Greg i’m glad to hear that you are today.

 

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Tim C: Mr Bennett graduations my friend good to see you alright so without further ado, Mr Dempsey, be joining us shortly he’s on the car right now so i’m going to jump right into housekeeping guys let’s see if I can do this thing.

 

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Tim C: All right, my 24th Greg and TIM yada yada KPI dashboard who doesn’t know about this KPI dashboard and putting in numbers and, at the end of every week.

 

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Tim C: Because if you’re not doing this and you’re not tracking your numbers, then you ought to because.

 

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Tim C: When his track, first of all, second of all, how do you know if you can do better if you don’t look back on what’s where you came from.

 

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Tim C: Compared to where you are and not only this if you put your numbers and say here, and you, you share your your your numbers, you get to compare against other people in the same area in your own trade to see how you’re performing.

 

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Tim C: And what better way to know, then, to be able to share those numbers with each other.

 

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Tim C: correct my number from today, glad that’s a great question guys i’ll share that real quick I woke up this morning I was like a nine and then I got on I had shinjuku calls lined up i’ve had seven of them back to back to back this morning, just like I stack my schedule.

 

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Tim C: And the one second to the last one before we go into this call was a lady who wanted to share the Bible with me.

 

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Tim C: In the Lord and wanted me to admit that I was saved by Christ.

 

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Tim C: And it can go one of two ways, you can think are shipped him, it must have been a horrible experience, but I could tell you it was it was it was a good human connection with somebody.

 

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Tim C: somebody who needs to be heard and just maybe not listened to by their spouse or their family, she was certainly not a Bible thumper she just wanted to make sure oh safe.

 

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Tim C: cool well this should be my customer or not I don’t know is the third time we’ve talked to each other in the last three years, and she has never bought from me yet, but.

 

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Tim C: It could be the lucky day so yeah I had to take a deep breath after that scheduled 3030 minute call ended up being like 45 minutes, so I was saved by Christ, and I started off as a nine i’d say just about a nine still but i’m going to heaven so that’s that’s a plus.

 

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Tim C: Is that too much information to share.

 

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Tim C: I don’t know how you track that so next point case yeah amen write a thank you brother, I appreciate the amen.

 

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Tim C: Whoever has not gone or knows about the maha mile high profit summit we had one last year lot of you folks attended some people don’t even know about it, if you don’t know about it, he told me you.

 

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Tim C: know about it, and if you haven’t signed up, you need to sign up, you need to be to this event it’s in a couple months from now it’s towards the end of the year.

 

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Tim C: But now you have an opportunity to get a ticket if you wait hold out.

 

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Tim C: may not be a ticket available for you.

 

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Tim C: Last year it’s sold out and that was it, it was sold out like so quickly, too, is like when they opened the doors and they gave these early by, and all this other stuff people jumped on board, there was no seats available.

 

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Tim C: And that was it the door closed and you missed out on an experience and if anybody’s on this call, right now, has gone to this event and witnessed this if you want to put into the chat box I don’t know, maybe just two words we thought of it.

 

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Tim C: To maybe add a thought provoking moment for somebody is thinking about it, please do i’d appreciate that.

 

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Tim C: We need to endorse thanks Daniel Daniel says it was a game changer you know it was it was a game changer for a lot of people is a tipping point you know I remember Dan coming into the fight and.

 

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Tim C: He was yeah fire under his has to show rodney and just walking into an environment like this.

 

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Tim C: Any I gotta be honest with you guys I guess we’ll afterwards, when we we get together with decompress after an event like this.

 

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Tim C: it’s like we scratch our heads it’s like what the Fuck just happened in there, that was like this most amazing how do we duplicate this again it was just everything was just perfect, it was it was the best event of event to without, without a doubt.

 

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Tim C: yeah rich event that kick you in the butt yeah totally and did you get two tickets push me justin what was what do I have to say to you what kind of permission, I have to give to you to go buy a ticket or two tickets.

 

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Tim C: yeah yeah isn’t it funny rodney you thinking about you say you realize you’ve been playing small and your business when.

 

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Tim C: it’s like you need permission or Somebody tell you that’s okay to be big it’s okay to make a lot of my it’s okay to talk to people, the way we do.

 

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Tim C: And just maybe a few words that came out of somebody’s lips just fell just right on your ears so i’m glad you went rodney i’m glad you’re here with us for sure.

 

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Tim C: Well i’m going to get off my puppet here i’m sorry guys I just got some housekeeping so the biggest thing is.

 

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Tim C: Is what happens is, and I even feel this I feel overwhelmed because there’s so many webinars there’s so many things that we that we have in this group, you have to you believe you think I have to attend everything and you don’t have to.

 

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Tim C: Take what you want from the battleground take what you want from these calls.

 

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Tim C: You don’t need to you know be here live for all of them, so if you don’t need to be here you don’t feel you need to be here go do what they need to do to make your.

 

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Tim C: Business run better or your relationship so whatever this is recorded it’ll be there for you guys in training portal, so if you jump off the call, I see the numbers drop I get it, I totally get it so jump off.

 

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Tim C: That was your opportunity guys you’re here for the ride now so we’re here for an hour.

 

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Tim C: So look here’s a schedule for the month you see it right here, we have our open coaching calls done, we have our cocktails coming up a couple weeks that much in April we haven’t that coming up, but this is the end of the month, so you can see what’s going on.

 

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Tim C: The 50 K trackers coming to an end and it’s going to be sad.

 

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Tim C: People have decided who jumped on this tracker to do something more for themselves by putting money aside.

 

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Tim C: And what’s important about saving the money is you get to realize that how little an impact here is every week by putting a little bit extra into something that’s yours.

 

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Tim C: And at the end, having a wad of cash, you can say now, I can go invest this.

 

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Tim C: And i’m not an investment guy I don’t know I know where I put my money in my retirement, I put my money into my financial advisor and he takes care of that stuff I talked to people that are smarter than myself to do that.

 

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Tim C: The first step is to have that cash in your hand to be able to make that decision for your life, because at the end of the line, and you know Steve shingles talks about it often he is not going to be in that.

 

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Tim C: In a soup kitchen he’s not going to be eating dog food, and neither do I want to do that, and you know if you end up with a lot of money in the end you feel like get too much money just give it away my number i’ll put it in the track I should send it over to me i’d love to have it.

 

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Tim C: yeah so it’s it’s it’s in the it’s in the files group guys it ended a couple weeks, and when it ends it’s going to start again if you put 10 bucks a week aside it’s something you don’t have to get the 50,000 but at least do something for yourself.

 

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Tim C: That sounds a Dan salinger Where are you my friend.

 

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Tim C: i’m here yeah but you’re really here just want to stay in your chicken.

 

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Tim C: me you’re all set to go yeah.

 

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Dan Salinger: know when you when you hit bottom being a chicken isn’t that big a deal.

 

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Tim C: Right, then so Dan you and I, I don’t think we’ve role play before have we.

 

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Dan Salinger: know, we have no.

 

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Tim C: don’t intimidate you.

 

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Dan Salinger: it’s not a good I don’t live in that world too much.

 

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Tim C: I love it yeah I love it, so this is gonna be just like a role play we do with a regular customer nothing special about it.

 

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Tim C: yeah so let’s let’s roll it down how many how many role plays you got it right now.

 

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Dan Salinger: I think i’m at like 160 or maybe just under all right.

 

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Tim C: So you’re almost ready to go for your black belt test.

 

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Dan Salinger: I can see some growth needed but.

 

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Dan Salinger: More of that has to do with the actual kind of.

 

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Dan Salinger: real life of Shin fooling you know kind of digging more so, I see I see movement that’s needed to make more of a direct impact or maybe a month I don’t know how to put it, the nuances the nuance impact to the sales in our business.

 

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Tim C: yeah I feel the same way as you do so if I know you don’t you’re aware of it, but a lot of times you think that.

 

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Tim C: you’re going to reach a certain level and then you’ll be all set and you developed in you know the words to say or how to make a connection with somebody but it just never stops.

 

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Tim C: yeah I mean honestly some of the things that that i’ve been learning and teaching for so long, even yesterday it’s like I had a situation real briefly is the lady leaned over to me was on the console she goes and I told her it was $75,000 and she said.

 

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Tim C: We just have to make sure we tell my husband it’s 50.

 

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Tim C: yeah and i’m like.

 

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Tim C: If you know me 10 years ago be like Okay, and just accept that but me now is like well what’s gonna happen when he comes over to me and asked me how much you spent on this.

 

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Tim C: Were you getting the other money from these questions that we’ve been training on it’s like they just I just fell back on my training, just like.

 

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Tim C: Does that even sound ethical you know I just called her, I mean, are you serious about it cuz he’s the one Lino my shoulder breathing on my back when she’s standing there and I don’t want to read her out, but of course I want to get the job right.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah right.

 

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Tim C: Right so um yeah so the practice makes permanent for sure so let’s go into the standard, the story is real simple i’d like to convert my garage.

 

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Tim C: over into a living space you do this kind of work.

 

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Dan Salinger: I do yeah.

 

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Tim C: I fantastic, so this is just a my house, I called you and I asked you to come on over give me a price and you say why don’t you just send me a picture of your house or something, this is what you got.

 

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Dan Salinger: Great ring ring.

 

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Tim C: hey.

 

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Dan Salinger: This is telling Good morning, this is Dan would jds construction trying to get old TIM.

 

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Tim C: yeah, then you got me man.

 

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Tim C: You think you’re coming over.

 

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Dan Salinger: Yes, I would love to come over do you mind if I kind of share a little bit of our process with you.

 

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Tim C: show a.

 

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Dan Salinger: great man that that’s appreciative maybe maybe we could start with just how you hoping, I can help you.

 

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Tim C: yeah but that’s a good question because you know a lot of people call me and they just want to spend alone with me so you’re asking me what I want you know what i’d like to do and not really me muscle my wife is we’d like to convert this garage into a bedroom.

 

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Tim C: And why I say my wife is because her mother is coming to live with us and I don’t really like her, that much.

 

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Dan Salinger: your wife or your mother.

 

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Tim C: My mother in law it’s my wife’s mom because maybe chicken yep yep she’s not a very pleasant person at all oh boy.

 

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Tim C: But I don’t want her in my house house i’d rather have her in the garage and make that a suitable place for she’s not that old so he will live for a while, so I got to make it kind of comfortable.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay, so you do want to make a comfortable.

 

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Tim C: My wife’s gonna know yeah.

 

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Dan Salinger: What what is a comfortable for you in your mind.

 

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Tim C: Well, you know I have, I have to have heat not water and let’s you know let’s just be you know it’s not like it’s Vietnam, you know I gotta you know locker up during the war.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah Okay, so does it have those in there now or you were looking to bring that in like a bathroom and different things.

 

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Tim C: yeah right now there’s just like a one of those one of those things you know it’s industrial sink it’s a white sink.

 

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Tim C: So yeah you’d have to bring everything in there because it’s not a heated garage it’s just a you know, two car garage it’s pretty deep it goes back like two car lengths.

 

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Tim C: So if we could create like a bedroom bathroom the kitchen area.

 

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Tim C: Nothing nothing crazy.

 

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Tim C: As you know, what’s gonna happen, I think it’s going to end up with like she’ll sleeping there, but all the cookies can be done in my house because her mother and my wife and her mama close okay great.

 

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Dan Salinger: So so you’re not looking for a kitchen in there you’re just looking for a place to stay a sanctuary for her away from you, where she can you know have her space, but the cooking and stuff will be done in the main house.

 

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Tim C: yeah you know, maybe a modem Clara yet this is maybe a little kitchenette if we put a stove in there in the microwave oh that’s you know with the sink just something small case she doesn’t want to come over you know she has her own little sanctuary yeah so.

 

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Dan Salinger: own sanctuary separated out from you okay.

 

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Tim C: What what.

 

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Dan Salinger: timing, are you thinking of this project.

 

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Tim C: Would it be would it be crazy to think that we could have something like this, this year.

 

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Dan Salinger: that’s The short answer I can give you a little longer answer which i’m just i’m going to tell you it’s dependent on two things the permitting process and and how long it takes to kind of finalize the design for the project Those are the two longer hurdles of the project.

 

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Tim C: Alright, so if if if the if this goes well, do you think it could be, it could actually be done by the end of the year, if things are in the stars align.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah yeah i’m pretty confident we could would that kind of project.

 

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Tim C: I gotcha all right.

 

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Dan Salinger: I could share a little timelines with jobs that we’ve done, you know, like this, what what i’ve what i’ve seen in those timelines.

 

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Tim C: Please.

 

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Dan Salinger: On the faster timeline if let’s say we got together design was done within a couple weeks and we were so many permits, it could be about five months.

 

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Dan Salinger: And if we took a little time, you know for the designing and then maybe you know I can’t speak for how the permitting process goes for every job it could push out to seven or eight months to for completion.

 

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Tim C: Knowing that seven eight months is like yeah that’s the talking about January, February.

 

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Tim C: yeah yeah I don’t know, maybe we can get a fast track me I can make some phone calls to people I know if we have to get people over here do inspections or whatnot yeah yeah.

 

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Dan Salinger: that’s our experience with that.

 

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Tim C: yeah I know a lot of people, so I could you know.

 

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Tim C: Ask favors or whatnot if that helps you yeah yeah absolutely.

 

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Dan Salinger: Have you ever done projects like this before.

 

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Tim C: No, I never man i’m i’ve never you know, every time I purchased a home it’s it’s been the way I like it, though okay so i’ve i’ve never had to hire anybody, I mean electricians I brought in, and stuff like that, but never somebody to do a renovation this size yeah okay.

 

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Dan Salinger: Maybe crazy question is let’s say you know we do the job for you’re totally done you’ve got the garage converted over to exactly what you were expecting.

 

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Dan Salinger: How would you know you pick the right contractor.

 

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Tim C: You know I know you kind of digging for for me to say that you know that the good parts and the bad parts.

 

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Tim C: You know i’ve heard some horror stories about contractors and i’ve heard some really good ones.

 

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Tim C: And I don’t i’m positive type of person I don’t look for the bad and people oh good I would think that if you if you’re honest with me right through the process and didn’t promise things that they weren’t really going to happen.

 

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Tim C: i’ll be really be happy about that okay yeah.

 

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Dan Salinger: that’s a good foundation to start any relationship so I appreciate you sharing that with me.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay um.

 

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Dan Salinger: You said, your wife is there’s things that she may be interested in in this project, as far as getting in that area, or does she have any.

 

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Dan Salinger: Particular vision for that.

 

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Tim C: um I you know i’d like to say that you know she wants it can’t look like a garage.

 

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Tim C: So it has to have windows like it’s a it was never a garage okay yeah you know just she wants a mother to be you know to be at home she’s she’s been living on our own for.

 

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Tim C: quite some time and it’s a lonely lonely existence and she doesn’t want it to be lonely so she wants to feel like she’s not institutionalizing her that she has her freedom yeah okay sounds good.

 

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Dan Salinger: With that look is that something that you, you know we’ve been talking about the interior of the garage is that something that you’d you’d be looking at, maybe even changing the exterior a little bit to try to try to make it feel like it’s all one unit.

 

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Tim C: yeah that’s that’s why I kind of lean on you.

 

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Tim C: it’s an open ceiling in there, you know, and you got the garage door, I think we got to get rid of that garage door I.

 

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Tim C: mean i’m okay lithographs tour they have but that’d be like a man town.

 

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Tim C: So yeah if we make an open front like to have our own entry way, so it looks like not like, so I guess it was like it was.

 

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Tim C: built like for a bonus room, not so much a garage yeah okay okay This helped me get a vision for that right, even maybe a big window like a window like a party call like a.

 

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Tim C: like an arch over the over the over the picture window over to the left of the House there, so it looks like it’s part of it.

 

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Dan Salinger: You talked about you know matching making it look like your home I don’t have any interior pictures, but maybe if you could give me a vision for for the.

 

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Dan Salinger: level that the finishes are in your House I don’t need specifics, but maybe an example would be like the inside of my house could be on the front cover architectural digest level.

 

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Dan Salinger: And then, and then, of course, the other end of it would be like this is a very spec home kind of finish, where do you think you’d land between those two.

 

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Tim C: You got some great questions I would I would I would rate, this is like not contractor great, but a little bit better I didn’t build this House I bought it.

 

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Tim C: from somebody who had it built it was like a company that came through and they built all the houses and development so they’re they’re kind of cookie cutter.

 

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Tim C: The trim level as far as like to your mom doors is painted the walls of white you know it’s nothing crazy countertops or some kind of stone.

 

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Tim C: You know I mean they didn’t spend a lot of money on on trim it was just a basic necessities, you know.

 

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Tim C: One thing I think it might be important is having some heated floors I because you know I know that I like heated floors and she’s older than me and she probably appreciate that is that something you guys can facilitate.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah absolutely yeah done a lot of projects.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay.

 

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Dan Salinger: i’m just trying to help you know get your vision for the entire space and in and be able to talk to you about you know, because one thing about our processes.

 

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Dan Salinger: he’ll be able to talk to you about numbers, you know kind of what what I think the investment would be for this project.

 

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Dan Salinger: If you could maybe talk a little bit about the layout do you want it to just be an open like studio or would you like it to have a bedroom have a bathroom you know that kind of thing mean obviously the bathroom needs to be separate but.

 

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Tim C: Maybe talk a little bit about that you know I think there’s plenty of realty and now to do that because she’s living alone to have the actual separation so.

 

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Tim C: When you walk in the front door to be a hallway and then the corner and living area we’re in this field separate everything you know.

 

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Tim C: yeah for sure it’s just it doesn’t it totally makes sense, you know the kitchen, I guess, can be with the living room that can be open up yeah don’t lay out this nothing crazy nothing, nothing does just kind of make it look like it belong there.

 

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Dan Salinger: mm hmm.

 

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Dan Salinger: Well, great I mean it sounds like what you’re really trying to do is even though you may not be looking forward to having your mother in law but but give her a really nice space that she is comfortable.

 

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Dan Salinger: seems like that would that would contribute to a smooth relationship within the home.

 

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Tim C: yeah you’re getting a dude in I am listening to and yeah I think you get what I want to do here, I just you know I don’t I don’t want to be miserable tour, but I want to be comfortable because.

 

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Tim C: In the long run, who knows, is gonna be taking care of me when I get older, I hope that somebody like myself would.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah yeah that that’s right appreciate that that viewpoint that you have there.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay, is there, do you mind if I ask your wife’s name just you know case we do meet up you know I can dress appropriately.

 

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Tim C: yeah her name is chanel that’s that’s what that’s what the J.

 

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Tim C: You might know her.

 

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Dan Salinger: For me just to make sure I get it right.

 

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Tim C: You didn’t know her.

 

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Dan Salinger: I don’t know her.

 

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Tim C: II II yeah Okay, thank you.

 

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Dan Salinger: Would it make sense to have janell on the phone, or is this kind of like one of your first steps in the process right now yeah.

 

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Tim C: You know this is that’s that’s a you know, honestly, we should be on the phone right now with us because.

 

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Tim C: This is her mom and you know i’ve never came short a never fallen short on expectations for my wife, as far as i’m concerned I don’t know.

 

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Dan Salinger: She might have a different.

 

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Tim C: Her mother might have a different point.

 

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Tim C: So.

 

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Tim C: I she should be on the call, and I think that if we if we do get further down the road, because I like the way this conversation is flowing at that I think she she needs to be.

 

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Tim C: She needs to be I might just hand the whole thing off to her.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay.

 

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Tim C: Great you know.

 

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Dan Salinger: i’m going to ask a super crazy question, do you think your mother in law should be part of the conversation.

 

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Tim C: that’s why probably i’ll hand it off to my wife.

 

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Tim C: I think we go.

 

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Tim C: But you know what you and I will do is it will set some guardrails about what is expected.

 

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Tim C: And if my wife says wandering outside those I think that you need to get in touch with me, because if it if it changes the scope of the project to where it gets like crazy expensive or draws it out the timeline.

 

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Tim C: which usually hand in hand, I need you to communicate that with me.

 

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Dan Salinger: that’s great that’s one of the questions I was just going to ask you is.

 

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Dan Salinger: When I give any investment range I can help people stay within that range.

 

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Dan Salinger: Or, I can.

 

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You know.

 

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Dan Salinger: be a sound or you know, a what’s a trigger for me going hey look sounds like we might be going over that investment rain, some people.

 

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Dan Salinger: want me to keep them within that best friend range some people want to know the other options and and want to make the decision themselves whether they’re going to go above that or not, so I can help that conversation.

 

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Tim C: Alright cool you know I let my wife know that I mean there’s nothing to be hidden there.

 

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Tim C: Because I think that.

 

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Tim C: This is a business transaction, but still it’s you know it’s, it has to be discussed it’s about money yeah I appreciate that.

 

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Dan Salinger: um do you mind if I recap, a little bit I heard you say, and then I can talk about what I think the investment range will be.

 

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Tim C: yeah I mean yeah go for it.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay, so what i’m really hearing is you, you want to make a space for your mother in law, because she she she needs to come and move with you, your wife and your mother in law have a really tight relationship so there’ll be a benefit there.

 

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Dan Salinger: But you that space needs to be separate it’s his or her own separate sanctuary where she can get away, you can get away, you can have that separation in your own home.

 

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Dan Salinger: With that we want to make that place you know it’s real important to you, and it sounds for your wife to make it look like it’s seamless in the home, it isn’t like a garage with.

 

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Dan Salinger: that’s been boarded up and now you got someone living in it, but it looks seamless little kitchenette bedroom bath unit nice little one bedroom kind of unit there that just puts you at ease for the future and your wife at ease with that your that your mother in law’s taking care of.

 

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Dan Salinger: One of the things I heard too is that it is important for you to try to get this done by the end of the year and and have that wrapped up so you don’t want it to extend into next year.

 

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Dan Salinger: Probably match the finishes of the home as much as possible, make it really seamless there on the inside, and then also address the outside, so it doesn’t look like just a garage door.

 

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Dan Salinger: Did I miss anything.

 

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Tim C: holy smokers I just didn’t think that so you were listening This is ridiculous yeah yeah this is you got it, I mean all you need to do is come over just do it exactly like you said.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay well we’d love to do that, I can talk to you about what I think what clients i’ve worked with before with garage conversions of what they’ve spent between those two and what I think yours might land land in with the the finishes that you’ve talked about.

 

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Dan Salinger: that’d be okay oh.

 

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Tim C: yeah yeah absolutely go for it.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah so very similar this size, I think you’re going to sit right between 70,000 and $60,000.

 

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Tim C: yeah I figured that’d be a little bit more than that.

 

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Tim C: yeah So if you if you if you’re saying that.

 

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Tim C: If if you if everything we talked about everything you recap, you went over all that can be done for under 70,000 then.

 

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Dan Salinger: For my God absolutely.

 

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Dan Salinger: there always are outliers.

 

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Dan Salinger: Like I don’t have the interior photos and there may be something in there that throws a loop, but this is is that this level of finish that you’ve described to me we’ve done multiple projects in that range.

 

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Tim C: yeah is you know i’m i’m i’m cool with that.

 

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Tim C: Dan i’m i’m okay with that because I actually got a little bit more and we got some wiggle room if we have to go higher, but what I don’t want you to do is come in here start.

 

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Tim C: demoing this thing and then you say oh hey, by the way this happened, and that happened and pretty soon now we’re over 100 because then.

 

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Tim C: i’m not your friend anymore yeah ya know that that would be.

 

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Dan Salinger: I think i’d put that in the box of being dishonest and we don’t we don’t.

 

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Dan Salinger: We don’t do that, we tried to be as open and honest with you as quickly as possible that’s where that onsite meeting will help that if I do see something.

 

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Dan Salinger: i’ll just call a timeout right then and go hey TIM, you know that 70 I didn’t we didn’t talk about this and I need to talk about how this may impact the budget so.

 

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Dan Salinger: we’ll get landed with where you’re comfortable with it before we even start the project and hopefully we’ll just stay right in that in that realm.

 

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Tim C: Well, sounds good.

 

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Tim C: I don’t know what do we do from here.

 

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Dan Salinger: Well, we can definitely schedule an onsite i’d love to meet chanel and you know just get the details ironed out, I kind of have three roads, we could take here it gets a little windy, but do you mind if I share those with you, and then you can just make a decision, what makes sense to you.

 

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Tim C: Please.

 

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Dan Salinger: So the first road is.

 

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Dan Salinger: we’re just absolutely good feel you feel really good about it, you got you want to get going right away i’m going to bring myself and my daughter who’s.

 

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Dan Salinger: My designer out with me also bring a contract for $70,000 will take a deposit and will immediately start designing your project right then with you and your wife.

 

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Dan Salinger: A lot of people aren’t comfortable with that quite yet so.

 

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Dan Salinger: But it is an option, it is one of the roads, so is that one make sense.

 

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Tim C: Let me, let me tell me what’s your first.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay.

 

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Dan Salinger: The second one is we’re definitely would like to move forward, but we’d like to get a little bit more detail figured out and get a real firm price and that’s called a design contract with us and that’s 40 $500 again it bring my daughter Ariel out, we would.

 

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Dan Salinger: produce an entire set of blueprints for the project.

 

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Dan Salinger: We would sit down and make all the minute design details with janell.

 

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Dan Salinger: And then I would be able to do a cost analysis for you so at the end of that process, he would have a full set of documents and absolutely dialed in number of what it’s going to cost to get this project done.

 

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Dan Salinger: Those construction documents are then be at the level that we could just immediately send them in for permitting.

 

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Tim C: Okay.

 

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Dan Salinger: So that’s kind of road to.

 

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Dan Salinger: And then road three is not quite ready for those two but we definitely like to meet you we’d like to run ideas by you see if we can get these numbers, a little closer just by walking and talking.

 

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Dan Salinger: That would just have me come out and I would just meet with you in janell in person and that’s called our consultation and that’s a $250 to come on out.

 

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Dan Salinger: So those are kind of the three roads and know it’s a little windy but.

 

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Dan Salinger: Those are the ones that kind of laying at your feet, to make a decision which one you’d like to like to move on.

 

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Tim C: yeah i’m kind of in the Doc if if you’re me which which one would you choose.

 

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Dan Salinger: I find that everybody who invest in my clients last few years that invest in that design.

 

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Dan Salinger: process.

 

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Dan Salinger: They just really like it, because they’re very comfortable with what they’re going to receive and they know exactly the price in which they’re going to see that that level and it does give us some time to get to know each other and work on the project together, even before we start.

 

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Tim C: So if you go for the more detail detail option of a two to 40 $500 price tag on it does that go towards the project.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah when I give you numbers of that range between that 70 and 60 that includes the design work like the first option engaged gave you, we would have that design work built right into that yeah so it’s really part of the process it’s not like 70 and then additional 4500.

 

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Tim C: yeah alright, so if you come over digit design contract he gave me all these all these little packages of all this stuff there’s this move the project out further or can we still get in that time like no.

 

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Dan Salinger: This is actually that’s a great question this.

 

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Dan Salinger: Road number two actually makes it go faster because we get right to it.

 

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Tim C: Now i’m all about fast, I like things in the fast so yeah let’s let’s do option two.

 

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Tim C: Okay, I think it makes sense.

 

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Dan Salinger: All right, well um.

 

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Dan Salinger: When it come out I think i’d already extended to you that if I see anything that pushes out that you know just unknown a pipe going through a wall that we’re going to have to deal with, or something.

 

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Dan Salinger: i’m going to be real, you know straight with you on that process i’m asking a favor you while i’m out there also.

 

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Tim C: yeah what’s up.

 

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Dan Salinger: And that’s just if you if just for some reason it doesn’t feel like it’s going to be a good fit.

 

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Dan Salinger: Then just I want you to feel comfortable with saying hey we’d like to go in a different direction i’d love to serve you but what’s more important is that you and I have an open and honest relationship from point one.

 

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Dan Salinger: So that’s the that’s what i’m asking as a favorite from you.

 

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Tim C: Just to be just like be honest with you about it yeah exactly yeah I don’t I don’t foresee any problems yeah not being honest with you coach.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah I appreciate that I don’t either, but I just I want people to be comfortable to be that open with me, because it is a relationship, you know that’s.

 

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Dan Salinger: The first thing we’re building in this at the end you’re going to have a really nice converted space, but during the whole process it’s a relationships now.

 

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Dan Salinger: Okay well i’ll send you a link with my schedule and then you can just choose the one you want that makes sense for you in janell to be there and.

 

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Dan Salinger: When I come out with a design contract 50% is required to you know as a deposit and then the other 50% is do when you have a set of completed plans in your hands in a full cost analysis done.

 

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Tim C: I love it okay cool.

 

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Tim C: We also yep sounds good let’s step out here guys alright guys anything missed.

 

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Tim C: put it in the chat box, please Dan let’s hear it buddy, how do you think you did.

 

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Dan Salinger: Oh, you know I lied to you as a little nervous.

 

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Dan Salinger: cool.

 

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Dan Salinger: No, I think it’s fine I.

 

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Dan Salinger: Again, I feel like my phone calls go really well with my clients it’s just sometimes when I get out there.

 

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Dan Salinger: I didn’t do it i’ve been trying to do it better is be bold enough to ask about the funding like How are they going to fund this project because that’s what i’m finding is I get out there.

 

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Dan Salinger: And all of a sudden i’m finding out that like well actually we got to you know go through this process for construction loan and then i’m like oh boy that’s a you know 678 week process and.

 

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Dan Salinger: You know here I am it just blew that you know that timeline that I told you, five months so that, in my mind that’s what I forgot to.

 

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Dan Salinger: Really confirm, because if they’re funded, you know right, then, then we can get going right, then, if they’re not funded for the project and you got to go through a bank that’s a whole nother six weeks of.

 

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Dan Salinger: Six weeks if it’s fast, you know so.

 

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Tim C: I don’t I don’t have that with my industry, but that is a that is like an objection i’ve never ever thought of in my head.

 

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Tim C: So how could you bring that out in a in a scenario earlier on the conversation, so you know you stand.

 

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Dan Salinger: i’m thinking, maybe, asking him what where they are in their process or they gathering information or they absolutely are ready to go with the project and then that might lead.

 

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Dan Salinger: Immediately like if they go i’m absolutely ready to go and then I could just kind of blindly so so that means you’re funded for everything right now you’re ready you’re ready to write that check.

 

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Dan Salinger: Because i’ve done that I just had a huge one last November we signed a million dollar contract.

 

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Dan Salinger: For a thing, and I got $100,000 into the job and the owner came up and said i’m out of money.

 

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Tim C: yeah you know something that didn’t bend it just brought out night I was kind of thinking, the same thing.

 

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Tim C: you’re talking about the timeline talk when I asked you, you know, could it be done by the end of the year in new said well.

 

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Tim C: It depends and i’ll share with you what i’ve heard in the past, so seeing the past was you know depends upon how fast we get things sign off on design plans in the most important of all, and it’s always it always seems to be an issue is, you know how you paying for it.

 

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Tim C: Some people get funding or construction loans and mean what does that look like, for you yeah there is like way in the beginning yeah yeah yeah no I like that.

 

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Dan Salinger: Because you don’t know right away and don’t even have to have a if it’s a 40 minute conversation or 20 if they’re going I gotta go through construction, you know, then okay that’s a definitely a different process yep it just.

 

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Tim C: Totally Tom his wife i’ll share what I found with the construction loans and timelines and how things changed.

 

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Tim C: You know, maybe it’s sold her organs to get the project going sooner frickin know you know but let’s figure that out together.

 

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Tim C: Right.

 

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Tim C: Good so if there’s one thing, other than that you could change with the be anything else.

 

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Dan Salinger: I mean not that I can see it in my in my own site, but that’s kind of why i’m doing this, hoping to get other eyes on my process.

 

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Tim C: The great Greg you’re in here that we hear from also this role play if you can open up.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah you got me.

 

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Tim C: yeah I got you go ahead.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah I mean I I think you did a great job they’re good questions internal he had some great labels.

 

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Greg Dempsey: How can how did you feel about his three options, where they like simple.

 

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Greg Dempsey: They make sense.

 

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Tim C: It totally made sense man it’s I want, if I want to pipe in to give my feedback but yeah quick you’re into to a quick answer your question yeah I liked him.

 

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Tim C: And I liked how we are so quick with the answer of what most people do, and he just matter of fact, we wrote off of menu, this is what the choices are.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Everybody picks it up.

 

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Dan Salinger: And you can you read hashed out again i’m sorry I literally my my thing just dropped my computer just dropped, so I didn’t quite hear that.

 

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Tim C: Greg asked me a question what he thought about your three options do you hear that part.

 

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Dan Salinger: No, I didn’t so i’m sorry.

 

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Tim C: Greg asked me what I thought about the three options, I said, I said that was beautiful I love them and.

 

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Tim C: It was as if you’re reading off a menu, as a matter of fact, when I asked you what most folks do you knew the answer, and it was seamless as if we had talked about this a million times, it was rehearsed I thought it was beautiful.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah that guy I totally stole that from.

 

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Dan Salinger: James about a year ago and it’s it’s revamped our construction company.

 

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Tim C: So quick, which is what you got brother.

 

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Greg Dempsey: I was, I mean I think he did a great job, overall I don’t have any major feedback, I was in and out of it.

 

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Greg Dempsey: But it seemed like he got a good amount of motive and spend a lot of time there i’m just curious on how it would.

 

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Greg Dempsey: His tone is is that similar to mine, it seems like like we’re kind of like slow and relaxed how he how he would handle a D personality, so what Dan has, how do you handle someone that’s really straightforward and pushes you.

 

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Dan Salinger: That that’s a great question usually I can you know i’ve been thinking about that and working on that I can match them to some degree, a little bit is is probably my own experience of having to slow things down in my mind for.

 

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Dan Salinger: 25 years and my last vocation, before I before I took on this construction company with my son so that’s kind of how I deal with stress coming at me as I slow it down and I try to slow them down a bit.

 

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Dan Salinger: But if I got a match I can match really i’ll just go that sounds like you want to meet make decision let’s meet you know I mean i’ll try to think about that, but.

 

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Dan Salinger: My own personal life I was a fire Captain for 25 years in a commander, so you know managing really stressful stuff.

 

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Dan Salinger: kind of comes natural to me, I mean we’re not natural but it kind of comes me because I had to do it for so long and that’s how I usually handled it as I slowed things down, you know.

 

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Tim C: yeah alright.

 

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Tim C: Well, let me give you my feedback Dan and.

 

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Tim C: make them see speak okay.

 

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Tim C: yeah you know all the time, all the time, I think everybody in the group was waiting for me to drop a bomb on you just come up with this we’re off scenario and flip my personality, become a D and it just wasn’t feeling it, I could not become a D if I tried.

 

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Tim C: Your tone sounds like you’ll labels, the listening skills, a recap the third party what others have spent the bracket you brought up, I mean just these things a genius it was just like I was talking to a black belt.

 

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Tim C: You brought up dishonest, you know that would be dishonest it’s like i’d stay away from that I felt Okay, with it, because that’s my personality i’m okay with that.

 

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Tim C: But Mike when somebody says something like you know just about projects changing scope and things blown out of proportion, for what we’re going to spend I just white label that I question, it has this ever happened before.

 

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Tim C: Okay right it’s like now, you get into the feeling the emotion of it, I just do so sourness man I frickin it’s like saying somebody trust me I got yeah it’s like I don’t know about this guy.

 

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Tim C: yeah you know.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah let me be honest with you that’s my favorite one like.

 

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Dan Salinger: yeah, what do you been dishonest with me the whole time.

 

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Tim C: I know.

 

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Tim C: I know it.

 

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Tim C: This is honestly stay at Dan I don’t know you’ve been I mean I don’t know why we haven’t talked before your father and son business to.

 

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Dan Salinger: I am that’s one of the best things he’s he’s like 1000 times builder than I am he’s uh he’s incredible so yeah.

 

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Tim C: i’m also a father and son so it’s a it’s a couple of us in the Group and I think it’s fantastic but yeah Dan you’re doing just.

 

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Tim C: A new there dude you were the guy man, you were you were the guy you, you need to be up against Eric he’s he’s gonna be hard time with this, which is, I think, is fantastic so i’m super proud of you i’m sorry we haven’t connected.

 

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Dan Salinger: From so thank you, I appreciate that feedback.

 

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Tim C: You too shall pass go on.

 

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Tim C: go on.

 

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Dan Salinger: i’ll keep going yeah.

 

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Tim C: Alright, so i’m Greg thanks for your input on that it’s it’s always it’s gold even new here for part of a you got to see something great and.

 

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Tim C: recap on this.

 

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Tim C: Listen to it later on there’s going to be worth listening to.

 

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Tim C: Greg are you ready, Mr Heidi are you ready.

 

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Tim C: ready, oh no questions there we go.

 

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Tim C: So here’s a scenario guys i’m gonna i’m gonna.

 

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Tim C: mute out let you guys do.

 

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You guys do best.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Job are you there.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: yeah yeah there you go.

 

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Greg Dempsey: How you doing Gilbert.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: not bad at all, but no, no, I have to follow that form inspiring dance.

 

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Greg Dempsey: you’re good.

 

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Greg Dempsey: you’re good yeah take a deep breath let’s rock and roll have fun.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Okay.

 

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Greg Dempsey: don’t get frustrated.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: i’m a stretchy pants.

 

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Greg Dempsey: All right, go ahead.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Give me a ring.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Ring ring.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Hello.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: hi This is great.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Oh yes, speaking.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Right it’s Gilbert hardy hardy.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Gilbert hey man, how you doing thanks for calling.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Of course i’m not bad.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: How you open a coffee.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah so I got your name from one of the.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Our appliance salesman so i’m doing doing this.

 

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Greg Dempsey: kitchen and I, my gc won’t put a Hood in for the for my you know cooktop sure anybody saying I don’t need it, but I know I need one.

 

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Greg Dempsey: I mean well, I guess, I think I need one Do I need one.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: May um.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Two things go into the um the cooking equipment and you’re cooking style.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Okay.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: So um how you plan on using this kitchen.

 

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Greg Dempsey: um you know just family and friends hanging out, I mean i’m not a chef or anything I just want to hang out and entertain I just want to make sure the House of the catch on fire.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Oh sure.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: will cover there.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: So.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: You said you like to entertain.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: them.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: hanging out and cooking stuff.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah yeah well, I mean So the idea is right, like if you see that picture.

 

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Greg Dempsey: We I wanted to have this in the in the island, so we could cook and you know i’m facing people and hanging out and interacting because our great rooms behind that.

 

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Greg Dempsey: I didn’t want it to be like up against the wall, where they’re looking at you know bright checking my ass out really because it’s pretty hot, but you know, looking at my back and i’m talking to them, you know I wanted to stay front with them so they can see.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Sure, Sir, so.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: A little bit of a.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: party atmosphere dad what are you.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Oh yeah.

 

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yeah.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Okay Okay, then.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: I would suggest you do need ventilation, because the.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: volume stuff we’re doing we’re going to want to move on.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Okay well what when would I not need it, I guess.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: When do you like cooking.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Okay, so I need one, no matter what it sounds like I just was curious on like is there a situation where you don’t need one.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: yeah well you know there’s.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: If you’re steaming veggies just doing very light type of things, then you know it’s not really necessary, but if you’re doing anything it’s searing room anything Bob smoking vapors you want to get rid of.

 

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Greg Dempsey: All you have to look at.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah that makes sense okay.

 

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Greg Dempsey: i’m not really sure why.

 

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Greg Dempsey: He won’t install it.

 

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Greg Dempsey: But uh yeah I mean is this something you guys can do.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Sure it’s something we can do we do it all the time for people um.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: let’s see just thinking of scheduling and stuff what kind of turnaround time, are you looking for.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Well, I mean i’m pretty much we’re pretty much done so i’d love to get it done at any point, so I don’t you know my house doesn’t smell like bacon.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Okay okay.

 

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Greg Dempsey: What kind of timeline or where you know how long are you out.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: I know about you know, a couple three weeks.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: should be able to get this done next month, provided we can lay hands on the equipment.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Okay, so it sounds like three to four weeks out.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Okay.

 

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Greg Dempsey: What information do you need for me.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Well i’m For one thing, because it just yourself in the home.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Now it’s my I got a wife and a couple kids.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Okay okay so they’d like to see this happen to me as well.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah yeah I mean we all would you know if we’re cooking in there, like you said we don’t want all the smoke and stuff in there.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Right right, so the same just for the parties and stuff you’re talking about this is for breakfast yeah.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah this is yeah everything man, we got the griddle in there, so we’re going to do breakfast and stuff and.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah I don’t want it to be an issue.

 

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Right.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Okay Okay, no.

 

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Greg Dempsey: So, like what I do like one of those downdraft ones, or would you do an overhead one.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Go either way or something like that.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: What do you want to know about them.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Well what’s what’s best.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Best would making sure best thing to do is make sure we got pulling power going on, so those fumes and vapors or did not have it so.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: You want to just list a couple pros and cons for a.

 

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Greg Dempsey: While I mean I can just tell you kind of what i’m looking for I guess.

 

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Okay.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah I mean I really want to get something that kind of that I mentioned the smell that’s a big thing for my wife, so, if I can have something I guess that gets rid of the smells better I don’t even know if that’s possible which one would you recommend.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: i’m.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Probably the rays vent downdraft with that island configuration.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Okay.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: there’s overhead hoods we can put in there.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: But an island hood is a massive metal hanging down from the ceiling and like you know not may not like it with your open floor plan you know see visually across the room and all that you know.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: There are no paper over here.

 

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Greg Dempsey: yeah that’s.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Okay that’s a good point so it sounds like you know with what I was telling you before the overhead might block the view.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Since I kind of want to be entertaining okay.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: All right, yeah there’s there’s one type over here that doesn’t block the view and that’s also kind of excited.

 

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Okay.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Those things are pretty much.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: flat panel it’s a little too soon.

 

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Okay.

 

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Greg Dempsey: i’m good for whatever you recommend.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Okay i’m.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: Probably just looking at that picture I do want to just discuss.

 

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Greg Dempsey: Okay.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: i’m just making a couple notes here.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: So.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: What would you like to do.

 

473

00:51:20.610 –> 00:51:25.770

Greg Dempsey: Can you, I mean I was struggling to come out and take a look at it tell me we’re good to go and I get it done.

 

474

00:51:26.970 –> 00:51:33.930

Gilbert Hardy: Sure sure Okay, then um yeah can I tell you what that that meetings going to look like.

 

475

00:51:35.490 –> 00:51:35.850

Greg Dempsey: yeah.

 

476

00:51:36.660 –> 00:51:44.670

Gilbert Hardy: Okay um we call it a discovery consultation and what we do is we come out and review site.

 

477

00:51:45.870 –> 00:51:46.440

Gilbert Hardy: and

 

478

00:51:47.790 –> 00:51:56.340

Gilbert Hardy: there’s a few boxes, I have to take to know which direction we’re going to go and scope of work is going to be and, therefore, what the budgets can be.

 

479

00:51:57.870 –> 00:51:59.880

Gilbert Hardy: And after that meeting it’s.

 

480

00:52:00.990 –> 00:52:04.830

Gilbert Hardy: I got enough information to issue a ballpark price.

 

481

00:52:06.990 –> 00:52:10.140

Greg Dempsey: Okay, is that is that ballpark price when you were there.

 

482

00:52:13.020 –> 00:52:18.150

Gilbert Hardy: yeah yeah yeah I wanna I want to try and develop a ballpark price, while i’m on site.

 

483

00:52:19.800 –> 00:52:23.610

Greg Dempsey: So what are some things that drive that price you don’t mind me i’m just curious.

 

484

00:52:24.930 –> 00:52:25.620

Gilbert Hardy: um.

 

485

00:52:27.090 –> 00:52:31.530

Gilbert Hardy: Basically, how much I have to alter to provide.

 

486

00:52:33.420 –> 00:52:34.920

Gilbert Hardy: For that system or work.

 

487

00:52:36.690 –> 00:52:37.890

Gilbert Hardy: That making sense.

 

488

00:52:39.570 –> 00:52:41.460

Greg Dempsey: Now, what do you mean author I don’t know.

 

489

00:52:43.110 –> 00:52:43.470

Gilbert Hardy: What.

 

490

00:52:45.540 –> 00:52:51.450

Gilbert Hardy: This is where we get kind of geeky and nerd out and technical and stuff like that how much of that.

 

491

00:52:54.240 –> 00:52:55.680

Greg Dempsey: I mean just give me the.

 

492

00:52:56.730 –> 00:53:01.290

Greg Dempsey: The overview like are just because, like we got to figure out where we gotta run the exhaust out.

 

493

00:53:01.590 –> 00:53:03.570

Gilbert Hardy: You know yep yep.

 

494

00:53:04.590 –> 00:53:06.630

Gilbert Hardy: I can get duckworth from point A to Point B.

 

495

00:53:07.980 –> 00:53:12.450

Gilbert Hardy: And what’s in the way of putting the size of piping, etc, etc.

 

496

00:53:13.650 –> 00:53:15.450

Gilbert Hardy: cool compliance and all that.

 

497

00:53:17.070 –> 00:53:20.280

Greg Dempsey: That makes sense I just wanna I just kind of wanted to understand myself.

 

498

00:53:21.420 –> 00:53:24.240

Gilbert Hardy: Sure sure okay so.

 

499

00:53:26.310 –> 00:53:28.290

Gilbert Hardy: can elaborate on how we handle that.

 

500

00:53:28.860 –> 00:53:29.940

Greg Dempsey: yeah please.

 

501

00:53:30.480 –> 00:53:39.810

Gilbert Hardy: Okay um I handle like a consultation service to $500 fee goes toward the bottom line if we go forward or.

 

502

00:53:40.920 –> 00:53:41.520

Gilbert Hardy: If we.

 

503

00:53:43.020 –> 00:53:44.730

Gilbert Hardy: come up with a ballpark right then and there.

 

504

00:53:47.280 –> 00:53:48.360

Gilbert Hardy: We go how’s it.

 

505

00:53:49.830 –> 00:53:50.460

Gilbert Hardy: going.

 

506

00:53:52.020 –> 00:53:56.970

Greg Dempsey: Okay, well, what happens if you come out here, I paid $500 and you tell me it’s my cost 5000.

 

507

00:53:59.340 –> 00:54:04.890

Gilbert Hardy: Why, I say to your decision that point but yeah that’s the type of thing.

 

508

00:54:07.740 –> 00:54:08.100

Greg Dempsey: Okay.

 

509

00:54:09.120 –> 00:54:10.410

Greg Dempsey: I mean, do you have a general.

 

510

00:54:12.360 –> 00:54:14.580

Greg Dempsey: Number you could tell me this this like cost.

 

511

00:54:16.380 –> 00:54:18.180

Gilbert Hardy: yeah um.

 

512

00:54:19.980 –> 00:54:24.120

Gilbert Hardy: See, looking at the downdraft will be over.

 

513

00:54:35.400 –> 00:54:44.490

Gilbert Hardy: Well, I just finished, a project yesterday it’s little scales larger than yours, that was about 16 five or somebody.

 

514

00:54:47.070 –> 00:54:48.150

Greg Dempsey: 16,000.

 

515

00:54:48.630 –> 00:54:49.830

Gilbert Hardy: mm hmm yeah.

 

516

00:54:50.190 –> 00:54:50.460

For.

 

517

00:54:51.990 –> 00:54:52.320

Gilbert Hardy: For.

 

518

00:54:53.760 –> 00:54:55.170

Gilbert Hardy: The downdraft system.

 

519

00:54:57.300 –> 00:55:00.030

Gilbert Hardy: 48 inches make up their.

 

520

00:55:03.330 –> 00:55:07.380

Gilbert Hardy: And their client purchase the younger from your client stores that wasn’t productive.

 

521

00:55:08.700 –> 00:55:09.480

Gilbert Hardy: yeah he had about.

 

522

00:55:10.680 –> 00:55:11.370

Gilbert Hardy: 18 or so.

 

523

00:55:14.430 –> 00:55:18.420

Greg Dempsey: So that wasn’t for any other hood itself that just for the ducks and stuff.

 

524

00:55:20.130 –> 00:55:21.000

Gilbert Hardy: uh yeah.

 

525

00:55:22.080 –> 00:55:26.040

Gilbert Hardy: I think that back, we had some other stuff too there’s gas piping of electrical.

 

526

00:55:27.300 –> 00:55:28.920

Gilbert Hardy: So all the utilities.

 

527

00:55:30.420 –> 00:55:31.980

Gilbert Hardy: He provided to get this to.

 

528

00:55:33.210 –> 00:55:35.940

Greg Dempsey: wow okay yeah That was a lot more than I thought it would be.

 

529

00:55:39.240 –> 00:55:40.290

Greg Dempsey: cool okay.

 

530

00:55:40.800 –> 00:55:43.500

Gilbert Hardy: The price can vary per home and for application.

 

531

00:55:44.520 –> 00:55:45.000

Gilbert Hardy: quite a bit.

 

532

00:55:47.010 –> 00:55:55.080

Greg Dempsey: Okay um yeah I don’t want to waste your time i’m just not sure if I want to spend $500 for you to come to them it’s gonna be you have 16,000.

 

533

00:55:57.120 –> 00:55:58.020

Gilbert Hardy: I get that.

 

534

00:56:02.580 –> 00:56:03.240

Greg Dempsey: well.

 

535

00:56:04.560 –> 00:56:13.800

Greg Dempsey: Alright, so yeah I guess i’m gonna i’m gonna you know talk to my wife and stuff and probably make some calls, I mean sorry I just I didn’t think I was going to be that much money.

 

536

00:56:14.790 –> 00:56:15.990

Gilbert Hardy: huh yeah.

 

537

00:56:20.400 –> 00:56:21.060

Gilbert Hardy: By the way.

 

538

00:56:22.800 –> 00:56:24.990

Gilbert Hardy: Is it is with me.

 

539

00:56:26.460 –> 00:56:27.180

Greg Dempsey: Yes, Sarah.

 

540

00:56:28.290 –> 00:56:31.650

Gilbert Hardy: Okay, I mean what would serious issues.

 

541

00:56:36.450 –> 00:56:42.180

Greg Dempsey: I mean you know I know we need to get it done but 16,000 boxes all is a lot, a lot of money.

 

542

00:56:43.470 –> 00:56:44.220

Gilbert Hardy: Right well.

 

543

00:56:46.710 –> 00:56:49.260

Gilbert Hardy: I think you can see why the gc didn’t want to get in the House.

 

544

00:56:51.780 –> 00:56:59.310

Greg Dempsey: um yeah I don’t know about that yeah i’m not sure i’m just I just didn’t realize it was that much I don’t know what we’re gonna do.

 

545

00:57:01.170 –> 00:57:02.250

Gilbert Hardy: Okay okay.

 

546

00:57:10.140 –> 00:57:11.640

Gilbert Hardy: So what do you think you might be next.

 

547

00:57:12.990 –> 00:57:14.970

Greg Dempsey: Let me talk to my wife and.

 

548

00:57:17.070 –> 00:57:21.360

Greg Dempsey: Let me kind of see what she says, and then I could give you a ring back.

 

549

00:57:23.880 –> 00:57:24.330

Gilbert Hardy: Okay.

 

550

00:57:25.560 –> 00:57:26.940

Gilbert Hardy: I can understand that.

 

551

00:57:29.010 –> 00:57:29.400

Gilbert Hardy: says.

 

552

00:57:30.960 –> 00:57:33.510

Gilbert Hardy: Would you like me to hold back and speak to her.

 

553

00:57:34.980 –> 00:57:40.560

Greg Dempsey: um let me talk to her first and then yeah well, let me, let me get with our first I don’t want to waste any any more your time.

 

554

00:57:41.940 –> 00:57:43.770

Gilbert Hardy: Okay Okay, is there.

 

555

00:57:47.580 –> 00:57:49.860

Gilbert Hardy: Anything else I can help you learn about this sort of thing.

 

556

00:57:51.660 –> 00:57:56.100

Greg Dempsey: um no not right now, no i’m good right now.

 

557

00:57:59.040 –> 00:57:59.340

All right.

 

558

00:58:02.310 –> 00:58:06.420

Gilbert Hardy: i’m gonna call you back end of the week and.

 

559

00:58:09.270 –> 00:58:10.080

Gilbert Hardy: Serious damn.

 

560

00:58:10.800 –> 00:58:18.210

Greg Dempsey: yeah yeah give me a call let’s give me the weekend, give me a call on Monday and we’ll kind of see you know, let me that’ll give me a chance to talk to her.

 

561

00:58:19.050 –> 00:58:19.290

Okay.

 

562

00:58:20.610 –> 00:58:21.060

Gilbert Hardy: that’s cool.

 

563

00:58:27.330 –> 00:58:28.650

Gilbert Hardy: else you’d like to know about this.

 

564

00:58:31.020 –> 00:58:33.150

Greg Dempsey: Now i’m good man, let me, let me.

 

565

00:58:34.170 –> 00:58:36.390

Greg Dempsey: Let me talk to her and all and we’ll talk soon.

 

566

00:58:37.350 –> 00:58:38.250

Gilbert Hardy: Okay okay.

 

567

00:58:42.870 –> 00:58:43.410

Tim C: We don’t guys.

 

568

00:58:44.040 –> 00:58:44.970

Tim C: yeah it’s.

 

569

00:58:47.100 –> 00:58:49.560

Tim C: All right, as always, build it, I asked the question.

 

570

00:58:50.820 –> 00:58:51.600

Tim C: How do you think you did.

 

571

00:58:54.930 –> 00:58:56.400

Gilbert Hardy: Oh sweating it a bit, but.

 

572

00:59:01.050 –> 00:59:02.640

Gilbert Hardy: I think it’s a cross between.

 

573

00:59:04.740 –> 00:59:10.710

Gilbert Hardy: Maybe Greg wasn’t my customer, but then again, I may have used an example that was.

 

574

00:59:11.760 –> 00:59:15.810

Gilbert Hardy: didn’t compare it to his situation exactly you know.

 

575

00:59:17.430 –> 00:59:21.450

Gilbert Hardy: Discussing price so that might have been putting a mistake.

 

576

00:59:22.470 –> 00:59:22.740

But.

 

577

00:59:24.180 –> 00:59:27.390

Gilbert Hardy: You know something more closer is scale.

 

578

00:59:28.830 –> 00:59:29.850

Gilbert Hardy: Projects but.

 

579

00:59:32.880 –> 00:59:36.240

Gilbert Hardy: there’s just a few unknowns day until I look at his house now.

 

580

00:59:37.710 –> 00:59:38.070

Gilbert Hardy: yeah.

 

581

00:59:40.680 –> 00:59:42.990

Gilbert Hardy: So it’s always something to sort out.

 

582

00:59:44.700 –> 00:59:46.500

Gilbert Hardy: The best you can.

 

583

00:59:49.620 –> 01:00:00.120

Tim C: Okay, so was there anything else besides think that the the comparison you made was not really true to what was going on here is it something else do you think that might you might have left there.

 

584

01:00:01.530 –> 01:00:09.720

Gilbert Hardy: um yeah I think I could have used the more humble example than the one I cited, because that was something I.

 

585

01:00:10.830 –> 01:00:12.900

Gilbert Hardy: finished up yesterday for a guy and it was so.

 

586

01:00:14.130 –> 01:00:16.680

Gilbert Hardy: there’s much more splashy then example.

 

587

01:00:17.730 –> 01:00:18.660

Gilbert Hardy: He was using so.

 

588

01:00:21.330 –> 01:00:22.380

Gilbert Hardy: That was probably me.

 

589

01:00:24.870 –> 01:00:25.170

Gilbert Hardy: But.

 

590

01:00:26.460 –> 01:00:28.770

Gilbert Hardy: Things can happen with Dr about you know.

 

591

01:00:31.710 –> 01:00:37.920

Gilbert Hardy: You can be a slab right there and they’ve built that kitchen so it’s like okay do that no other way yeah.

 

592

01:00:41.400 –> 01:00:46.020

Gilbert Hardy: So when you’re not in a planning stage of a project like this it’s very hard to predict.

 

593

01:00:47.040 –> 01:00:48.600

Tim C: yeah yeah.

 

594

01:00:49.620 –> 01:00:59.520

Tim C: hey justin caddy and Craig Solomon you have not been on one of these rumbles before, could you put in the chat box, how you felt, how would you feel if you were in his seat during that role play, please.

 

595

01:01:01.830 –> 01:01:05.370

Tim C: Let me pipe in give you my two cents and i’m going to like Greg talk.

 

596

01:01:05.430 –> 01:01:06.930

Tim C: yeah close this out okay.

 

597

01:01:09.780 –> 01:01:19.260

Tim C: Last time, you went up against Greg and when I was with you as well, you can geek out and get all techie real easy and we can trick you into that.

 

598

01:01:19.320 –> 01:01:19.890

Gilbert Hardy: To be that.

 

599

01:01:20.100 –> 01:01:20.670

Gilbert Hardy: know at all.

 

600

01:01:21.180 –> 01:01:26.460

Tim C: You would like that guy who wants to just got all this great information and you really fought it.

 

601

01:01:27.540 –> 01:01:32.460

Tim C: You really fought doing that it showed so yeah congratulations on not burning out dude.

 

602

01:01:35.280 –> 01:01:36.300

Gilbert Hardy: How many rural places.

 

603

01:01:37.500 –> 01:01:40.200

Tim C: yeah well you’re not done dude because this is a lifetime thing.

 

604

01:01:40.590 –> 01:01:41.010

yeah.

 

605

01:01:43.680 –> 01:01:49.170

Tim C: And that’s that’s that’s hard I get it, you know all this stuff and that’s your natural inclination to be the know it all.

 

606

01:01:51.120 –> 01:02:05.910

Tim C: You got in his MIC I got some things i’d like to offer to you and you got to think about it, but now we think about it, but kind of feel it and do it, you got to try using labels when Greg says i’ve got this type of system and that type of system.

 

607

01:02:07.260 –> 01:02:09.870

Tim C: I lay lay well that sounds like you’ve done a lot of homework.

 

608

01:02:11.190 –> 01:02:13.140

Gilbert Hardy: Oh yeah it’s like.

 

609

01:02:13.950 –> 01:02:24.990

Tim C: It gets all this other crap i’ll have i’ll let him, let him talk, let him, be the expert, because now, you know you know you’re admitting I don’t know everything tell me what you know sounds like you’ve done your homework and you can be tricky easily.

 

610

01:02:26.040 –> 01:02:32.460

Tim C: silences good dude do some uncomfortable silence as I felt really good about you let it just hanging there waiting for him to answer.

 

611

01:02:33.990 –> 01:02:39.420

Tim C: So yeah that’s what I have Gilbert much better than what you were totally i’m gonna.

 

612

01:02:39.540 –> 01:02:42.810

Tim C: i’m gonna let Greg this is greg’s test so Greg what you got.

 

613

01:02:44.250 –> 01:02:45.780

Greg Dempsey: Over the job buddy.

 

614

01:02:47.910 –> 01:02:54.030

Greg Dempsey: yeah definitely a big improvement man i’m proud of you for really I know you’ve been doing role plays and such.

 

615

01:02:55.200 –> 01:02:57.180

Greg Dempsey: I have a couple questions for you okay.

 

616

01:02:57.840 –> 01:02:58.080

Now.

 

617

01:02:59.820 –> 01:03:05.850

Greg Dempsey: If you were going to do the if you were going to give me a range worst case and best case, what would that look like.

 

618

01:03:07.770 –> 01:03:11.190

Gilbert Hardy: Oh boy I would say anything from.

 

619

01:03:14.910 –> 01:03:16.980

Gilbert Hardy: $30,000.

 

620

01:03:19.290 –> 01:03:19.680

Greg Dempsey: Okay.

 

621

01:03:21.810 –> 01:03:22.350

Greg Dempsey: So.

 

622

01:03:23.610 –> 01:03:38.970

Greg Dempsey: that’s kind of where I would I would go with one of these and and and just let them know like hey you know we could just come in there and knock this thing out and there’s no Joyce and stuff in the way and whatever it could be, I don’t know 9500 to 12,000.

 

623

01:03:40.500 –> 01:03:50.490

Greg Dempsey: Or you know if we come in here and it’s it’s a lot of work, and you know we got a lot of obstacles to work through this could run up as much as 30,000 or you could give them a range to right.

 

624

01:03:52.050 –> 01:03:52.920

Gilbert Hardy: yeah yeah.

 

625

01:03:53.340 –> 01:03:59.040

Greg Dempsey: That you gave me that number, and I was like i’m done right there, I was just like that’s that’s crazy.

 

626

01:04:00.090 –> 01:04:07.260

Greg Dempsey: Because that’s in my head i’m like that’s what he’s gonna charge me, no matter what you said from there, I was like um I know he’s going to be there.

 

627

01:04:07.920 –> 01:04:08.160

Oh.

 

628

01:04:10.770 –> 01:04:18.060

Greg Dempsey: yeah I mean, and I know you said Well, this is a bigger one than that, but that should have been laid out before.

 

629

01:04:19.830 –> 01:04:28.950

Greg Dempsey: or just given overall range, you know i’ll be able to lock in more once I get out there and do the console but this could go from you know and give them a range.

 

630

01:04:29.970 –> 01:04:30.600

Gilbert Hardy: mm hmm.

 

631

01:04:35.880 –> 01:04:36.480

Greg Dempsey: So.

 

632

01:04:39.210 –> 01:04:39.540

Greg Dempsey: My.

 

633

01:04:40.830 –> 01:04:44.460

Greg Dempsey: One thing I want you to really try to do and your role place.

 

634

01:04:45.870 –> 01:04:47.910

Greg Dempsey: Is get a little confidence.

 

635

01:04:49.410 –> 01:04:52.350

Greg Dempsey: And you may be confident go over it just doesn’t feel that way.

 

636

01:04:54.330 –> 01:04:56.970

Gilbert Hardy: yeah yeah tell me yeah yeah.

 

637

01:04:57.510 –> 01:05:08.970

Greg Dempsey: Okay, and I know you know this front and back right but it just like I need to know it like you need to just be like hey it’s gonna be this or this and everything you say is like you’ve done this, a million times.

 

638

01:05:11.100 –> 01:05:11.370

Gilbert Hardy: Right.

 

639

01:05:12.390 –> 01:05:12.960

Greg Dempsey: um.

 

640

01:05:14.610 –> 01:05:26.520

Greg Dempsey: So, like when I asked you a question every and I, I noticed this kind of we all do it right we’re so worried about giving information that we want to reverse it, but sometimes you got to give an answer.

 

641

01:05:27.540 –> 01:05:37.410

Greg Dempsey: You know, like what are some things that would make this would alter their price it’s like well you know if we got to come in there and go all through the ceiling and all that craziness I mean that would fit up.

 

642

01:05:38.430 –> 01:05:41.220

Greg Dempsey: Is there something more, you know more information you’re looking for.

 

643

01:05:42.990 –> 01:05:56.670

Greg Dempsey: So it’s okay to answer a question or two you know I just don’t think you need to geek out like oh we’re gonna have to go through we’re gonna have to cut the Joyce by open, and you know notch the Court in the Joyce and then run the driver like that speaking out to me.

 

644

01:05:57.540 –> 01:05:57.840

Gilbert Hardy: yeah.

 

645

01:05:57.960 –> 01:05:58.620

Greg Dempsey: That makes sense.

 

646

01:05:59.160 –> 01:06:00.630

Gilbert Hardy: Oh, of course, yeah.

 

647

01:06:01.050 –> 01:06:01.440

Okay.

 

648

01:06:03.270 –> 01:06:16.620

Greg Dempsey: One other thing at the end, I noticed when you weren’t getting the answers you wanted for me you’re just like okay like I didn’t like the tone of the okay it kind of threw me off a little bit now i’m listening for this Gilbert.

 

649

01:06:18.300 –> 01:06:23.070

Greg Dempsey: But it just kind of you were just like Okay, whatever like it was just like Okay, so I was like.

 

650

01:06:23.730 –> 01:06:24.000

Greg Dempsey: You know.

 

651

01:06:25.290 –> 01:06:38.880

Greg Dempsey: So that that, for me, you know we’re looking at this like I could call other people Gilbert I could call to other people, and it might be the same thing right you could be the exact same price i’m going to go with the person that made me feel the best.

 

652

01:06:39.600 –> 01:06:39.810

yeah.

 

653

01:06:41.280 –> 01:06:43.020

Greg Dempsey: Okay, so just keep that in mind.

 

654

01:06:44.100 –> 01:06:49.710

Greg Dempsey: I think you’ve come a long way Gilbert on i’m good with you, I think you’re ready to go.

 

655

01:06:50.940 –> 01:06:57.570

Greg Dempsey: Go test with Derek and get your black belt, but these are the things i’m going to ask you, as a favor to work on.

 

656

01:06:58.770 –> 01:06:59.340

Gilbert Hardy: Oh yeah.

 

657

01:07:00.900 –> 01:07:02.700

Gilbert Hardy: yeah yeah yeah I see it.

 

658

01:07:03.900 –> 01:07:04.830

Gilbert Hardy: Because one of the points.

 

659

01:07:06.420 –> 01:07:07.770

Gilbert Hardy: To me about.

 

660

01:07:09.090 –> 01:07:12.870

Gilbert Hardy: letting them be the expert, as he did, that this point talking to a real.

 

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01:07:14.280 –> 01:07:16.860

Gilbert Hardy: Active up, for you know it was just.

 

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01:07:17.940 –> 01:07:18.840

Gilbert Hardy: yeah he was just.

 

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01:07:21.360 –> 01:07:35.490

Gilbert Hardy: Fine, was oh yeah what’s that air that scatter come back in Oh, it sounds like you’ve done your homework, so you know it’s called makeup oh yeah yeah that’s what that is yeah and we got going now send me pictures so.

 

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01:07:35.790 –> 01:07:36.660

Greg Dempsey: Beautiful yeah I mean.

 

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01:07:36.690 –> 01:07:51.210

Greg Dempsey: This is tough, for me, because that i’m leading you a place that I know where i’m going to take you it is, I am manipulating this for us because I want you to do certain things and I know TIM has to we want you to go to a certain place so some of this is not organic right.

 

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01:07:51.690 –> 01:07:55.350

Greg Dempsey: it’s not like a customer with emotions and being dumb and whatever.

 

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01:07:55.530 –> 01:07:57.330

Gilbert Hardy: So yeah yeah yeah.

 

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01:07:57.720 –> 01:08:00.810

Tim C: You know I gotta say, one of the thing Greg and I know you’ll agree with me.

 

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Tim C: I know you know your prices Gilbert I can just say i’m just saying you don’t feel confident I I would not hire you on the fact that I just couldn’t get a solid number audio and you know people in the like in the chat saying it.

 

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01:08:15.300 –> 01:08:25.830

Tim C: It was it was uncomfortable and I know, once you start going sideways it’s hard to pick that back up if you don’t know your numbers you lost credibility with me, being a deep personality i’m done.

 

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01:08:26.610 –> 01:08:37.140

Tim C: You got to know what things cost you got to know that and not being a know it all it’s like frickin gold except when I say don’t you know you’re fucking facts and i’m on you about it, if it’s a real car factory, you know.

 

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01:08:38.460 –> 01:08:53.220

Tim C: But yeah the confidence in you know not to compare you, but I need to it’s like then salinger new new shit man he’s like this is like human I have role play this like watching a double play in baseball it’s like magic it’s been done a million times.

 

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01:08:53.730 –> 01:08:54.210

Gilbert Hardy: it’s just it’s.

 

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01:08:54.390 –> 01:08:57.300

Tim C: Just different different person you dancing with you know it’s the same dance.

 

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01:09:00.240 –> 01:09:06.810

Tim C: guys i’m going to ask you to take away and put your takeaways in the group what happened today because there’s a lot of I mean there’s a lot of magic happening here today.

 

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Tim C: Truly, was it was a pleasure role playing and have a rumble with you guys it really truly is when we have a double header like this with two purple belts, you know, going to be testing that black with Derek.

 

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01:09:18.270 –> 01:09:31.290

Tim C: We like to send you forward to Derek confident that you guys will earn your black belt, with him, because sometimes he can send you Pack and you don’t make that through that and we just seen that recently, you know it’s a sad thing, but we all can have black belts right away.

 

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01:09:33.570 –> 01:09:39.690

Tim C: Greg if you anybody here wants to rumble live ask and i’ll send you a link to my schedule, where you can put yourself on to that.

 

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Tim C: And because your role playing live it’s like it’s like a fast pass to get into your black belt, because you getting truly uncomfortable for everybody watching you.

 

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01:09:48.870 –> 01:09:55.020

Gilbert Hardy: Know accountability let everybody else know that that’s exactly why i’m here today, I asked if I could do.

 

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01:09:56.340 –> 01:09:57.090

Gilbert Hardy: Then.

 

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01:09:58.860 –> 01:09:59.940

Gilbert Hardy: So yeah no.

 

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01:10:00.000 –> 01:10:04.020

Gilbert Hardy: yeah just do it no man says.

 

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01:10:05.070 –> 01:10:05.400

Gilbert Hardy: yeah.

 

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01:10:06.570 –> 01:10:11.070

Tim C: Thanks so much man, I appreciate that Greg you get something off before we close out, we got homework, what do we got here.

 

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01:10:11.850 –> 01:10:16.980

Greg Dempsey: This is the homework for everyone, I want you to go back and listen to this or listen to another one.

 

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Greg Dempsey: and listen for certain things, what I would ask what I think it’s a good way to do this is listen to the feedback that TIM and I gave.

 

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01:10:27.270 –> 01:10:38.730

Greg Dempsey: And then go back and listen to the role play and see if you hear what we’re hearing or see if you heard something different okay and Gilbert I want that’s something I meant for you, I want you to just list them for your tone, at the end.

 

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Gilbert Hardy: But.

 

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01:10:41.880 –> 01:10:48.330

Greg Dempsey: All in all, guys awesome job, this is not easy to get on here, but this is what accelerate you to get to a higher level quicker.

 

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Tim C: yeah and one thing to point out, you know for the gentleman who joined us first time this this role this role play live.

 

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01:10:55.770 –> 01:11:04.140

Tim C: And we were a little bit tougher some of the questions in the situations we put these guys through these guys through these guys have been around the block did not did not new to this game.

 

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Tim C: Your hundred 60 points or better with their role place if you want to step into the ring with Gregor I in your White belt or a green belt you treated as such guys we’re not going to throw these curve balls and beat you down like a dog.

 

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Tim C: we’re going to take you through the process of help you learn this so don’t be afraid of getting in the ring with us, you don’t know what you can expect though right.

 

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Tim C: guys it’s been a pleasure.